Rapture 2010--Impressive New Evidence. (myth, scripture, Jesus, Bible)
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It's just more dispensensationalism.....stay out of the tabloids and stay in the Word!!
I feel two dynamics at work here:
1. what the scriptures say clearly show that prophecy re Israel was fulfilled in 70 AD
At the same time:
2. One has to be intrigued by Daniel's prophecy seemingly being fulfilled twice--
a. 457BC-34AD = 490 years
b. 1539AD-2015AD = 490 years/4 blood moons, a once every 600 year (avg.) phenomenon occurring in same year (2015).
I have likened this on occasion to throwing the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle up in the air and having them fall into place when they hit the ground. You'd stand there in but what are you to do with this seemingly miraculous event? It's like the Bible Codes--incredible odds-busting clusters of related words that ultimately lead nowhere despite their obvious messages. God's ways are indeed mysterious.
1. what the scriptures say clearly show that prophecy re Israel was fulfilled in 70 AD
At the same time:
2. One has to be intrigued by Daniel's prophecy seemingly being fulfilled twice--
a. 457BC-34AD = 490 years
b. 1539AD-2015AD = 490 years/4 blood moons, a once every 600 year (avg.) phenomenon occurring in same year (2015).
I have likened this on occasion to throwing the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle up in the air and having them fall into place when they hit the ground. You'd stand there in but what are you to do with this seemingly miraculous event? It's like the Bible Codes--incredible odds-busting clusters of related words that ultimately lead nowhere despite their obvious messages. God's ways are indeed mysterious.
Does that mean since there were 4 blood moons during that time that there were 4 comings? How does it come that it is the fourth blood moon and not the 2nd or the 3rd? Because it is 490 years? Well then a blood moon is not a very significant sign of the coming if it happens every 600 (or so) years...
1. what the scriptures say clearly show that prophecy re Israel was fulfilled in 70 AD
At the same time:
2. One has to be intrigued by Daniel's prophecy seemingly being fulfilled twice--
a. 457BC-34AD = 490 years
b. 1539AD-2015AD = 490 years/4 blood moons, a once every 600 year (avg.) phenomenon occurring in same year (2015).
I have likened this on occasion to throwing the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle up in the air and having them fall into place when they hit the ground. You'd stand there in but what are you to do with this seemingly miraculous event? It's like the Bible Codes--incredible odds-busting clusters of related words that ultimately lead nowhere despite their obvious messages. God's ways are indeed mysterious.
You can take comfort in knowing that God doubles things twice before He brings it to pass.
Since Jesus fulfilled all prophecy, the only thing left which Israel has to fulfill is in coming to Christ.
And that may just be right around the corner.
Does that mean since there were 4 blood moons during that time that there were 4 comings? How does it come that it is the fourth blood moon and not the 2nd or the 3rd? Because it is 490 years? Well then a blood moon is not a very significant sign of the coming if it happens every 600 (or so) years...
Blood moon = Lunar eclipse...There are two or more per year.
Does that mean since there were 4 blood moons during that time that there were 4 comings? How does it come that it is the fourth blood moon and not the 2nd or the 3rd? Because it is 490 years? Well then a blood moon is not a very significant sign of the coming if it happens every 600 (or so) years...
four blood moons (total lunar eclipses producing sensation of blood covering moon ala Joel) on four consecutive feast days: Purim 2014/Tabernacles- 2014/Purim 2015/Tabernacles 2015. last occurred in 1967 and 1949. prior to that last occurred in 1492. Won't occur again this century.
four blood moons (total lunar eclipses producing sensation of blood covering moon ala Joel) on four consecutive feast days: Purim 2014/Tabernacles- 2014/Purim 2015/Tabernacles 2015. last occurred in 1967 and 1949. prior to that last occurred in 1492. Won't occur again this century.
How does that prove anything? Why this one. If it's such a good opportunity for fulfillment why didn't the rapture happen in 1492, or next century or the next. Why is this a sign of something?
The Resurrection of the saints and Rapture, plus the return of Jesus Christ to rule the World must happen in a Sabbath Year. Daniel's 70th Week, which is the last 7 yrs, means it is a Sabbath Cycle, therefore man's 6000 yrs rule will end in a Sabbath Year. The coming Sabbath Yrs are 2016, 2023, 2030... and so on.
How does that prove anything? Why this one. If it's such a good opportunity for fulfillment why didn't the rapture happen in 1492, or next century or the next. Why is this a sign of something?
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The Resurrection of the saints and Rapture, plus the return of Jesus Christ to rule the World must happen in a Sabbath Year. Daniel's 70th Week, which is the last 7 yrs, means it is a Sabbath Cycle, therefore man's 6000 yrs rule will end in a Sabbath Year. The coming Sabbath Yrs are 2016, 2023, 2030... and so on.
That is the seeming contradiction to all this: 2017 is a jubilee. 2014-2015 are the seeming blood moons mentioned in Joel and revelation before the coming of the "great and dreadful days of the Lord". 490 years from a command to rebuild and restore the walls of Jerusalem just like in Daniel before Christ's first coming. Everything happening during a once in every 500 year event like four blood moons on consecutive high feast days. Calculate the odds of that happening all at once. It's off the charts. That addresses your remark, wilvan.
Yet, how often have we seen these permutations? I can't count. And every time they turn up against all odds and prophecy pimps start predicting the rapture and trib everything folds up and we're back to business as usual within a week. That addresses your observation, kat. Two contradictory viewpoints that have perfect validity in their own rights and yet find an eerie compatibility in their 180 degree, polar opposite POV's. As I said, God's ways are indeed mysterious.
The Resurrection of the saints and Rapture, plus the return of Jesus Christ to rule the World must happen in a Sabbath Year. Daniel's 70th Week, which is the last 7 yrs, means it is a Sabbath Cycle, therefore man's 6000 yrs rule will end in a Sabbath Year. The coming Sabbath Yrs are 2016, 2023, 2030... and so on.
According to the translator of Josephus, the year Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD was a sabbatical year. What is interesting about Josephus is that the translator wrote this endnote:
"(3) That these calamities of the Jews, who were our Savior’s murderers, were to be the greatest that had ever been sence (sic) the beginning of the world, our Savior had directly foretold, Matthew 24:21; Mark 13:19; Luke 21:23, 24; and that they proved to be such accordingly, Josephus is here a most authentic witness."
And Josephus himself says:
"After this, I shall relate the barbarity of the tyrants towards the people of their own nation, as well as the indulgence of the Romans in sparing foreigners; and how often Titus, out of his desire to preserve the city and the temple, invited the seditious to come to terms of accommodation. I shall also distinguish the sufferings of the people, and their calamities; how far they were afflicted by the sedition, and how far by the famine, and at length were taken. "
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but what are you to do with this seemingly miraculous event? It's like the Bible Codes--incredible odds-busting clusters of related words that ultimately lead nowhere despite their obvious messages. God's ways are indeed mysterious. 
