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Old 10-25-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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That depends on what she teaches? but she merely has a different methodolgy which I don't agree because I don't see it in scripture. She has great, sincere intentions but she is causing more harm than good.

I am going to start my own ministries, it's called bed ministries, it's for all the people that don't want get out of bed in the mourning to worship the Father, give glory to him and just want to stay in bed....we will bring church right to your bedroom.

Do you like it????
.................................................? ???? Makes no sense.

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Why is she causing more harm than good? I asked that above and it was conveniently ignored.
That happens quite often when you direct a question to him. He still hasn't answered mine. Think I'll save myself some time, and stop trying to have a reasonable, logical conversation with someone who sounds a little out of it........not sure what is going on with him.......! I assume he is attempting to take the thread off-topic because he cannot form a coherent, logical reply?
I have no idea.........
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Scenario #1
Mr./Mrs. John Doe abuses his/her spouse after being under the influence each and every night. He/she stops into this local bar to get their nightly fix. They sat in on, or near the conversation being held at this local saloon. He/she goes home still under the influence and still abuses their spouse.

Question: How did this help?


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Old 10-25-2009, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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Scenario #1
Mr./Mrs. John Doe abuses his/her spouse after being under the influence each and every night. He/she stops into this local bar to get their nightly fix. They sat in on, or near the conversation being held at this local saloon. He/she goes home still under the influence and still abuses their spouse.

Question: How did this help?
Let's look at it from the other perspective. How did it harm he/she by hearing a discussion about God and theology?
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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To me church is about wherever we gather in the name of God. It is not about a building that we visit on Sunday, it is where we are.

Also I don't use the word Lord, that denotes a God who rules over and punishes people (as in Lord and Master)... when I read the New Testament I read about Christ being all loving and reaching out a hand to those who need a hand up, not reaching out a hand to smack down those who don't agree.

For the Lord relationship to exist Christ would have to be punishing, as in lording over us. Christ does not punish, he accepts and forgives unconditionally.
Amen revrandy

You said when you read the scriptures you read about Christ being all loving and all reaching , after all the scriptures testify of Jesus , John 5 verse 39 and Luke 24 verse 27.


Acts 9 verse 7

The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. This scriptures reminds me of those who see anything but the scriptures testifying to the the heart of God towards His creation.

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Old 10-25-2009, 02:37 PM
 
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Let's look at it from the other perspective. How did it harm he/she by hearing a discussion about God and theology?

Who said anything about harming? I distinctly asked: How did it help.
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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To me church is about wherever we gather in the name of God. It is not about a building that we visit on Sunday, it is where we are.

Also I don't use the word Lord, that denotes a God who rules over and punishes people (as in Lord and Master)... when I read the New Testament I read about Christ being all loving and reaching out a hand to those who need a hand up, not reaching out a hand to smack down those who don't agree.

For the Lord relationship to exist Christ would have to be punishing, as in lording over us. Christ does not punish, he accepts and forgives unconditionally.
I have no idea what any of that had to do with what I said. Can we please keep within context....God slapping hand... a church is not a building (I know that. I have gone to many house churches).
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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Scenario #2
Mr./Mrs. John Doe abuses his/her spouse after church every Sunday, he goes home and drinks. He is under the influence each and every night. He/she continues going to church, yet continues to drink. He/she goes home after church, gets drunk, and still abuses their spouse.

Question: How did going to church help?
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Out of Florida........
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Scenario #2
Mr./Mrs. John Doe abuses his/her spouse after church every Sunday, he goes home and drinks. He is under the influence each and every night. He/she continues going to church, yet continues to drink. He/she goes home after church, gets drunk, and still abuses their spouse.

Question: How did going to church help?
Stay on topic: That's not going to work with me. Congregation seeks God in Salon.............how did it help?
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: New England
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I have no idea what any of that had to do with what I said. Can we please keep within context....God slapping hand... a church is not a building (I know that. I have gone to many house churches).
Yet you talk as if the church is a physical place with 4 walls a steeple a pastor and a congregation and a script.
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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Stay on topic: That's not going to work with me. Congregation seeks God in Salon.............how did it help?
I am on topic, you just don't like what I posted.

How did it help for this woman to go into a saloon with the gospel? I hope you're kidding. Do you really have to ask.....?
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