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Old 11-06-2009, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Comunistafornia, and working to get out ASAP!
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Maybe God wants to torment people in fire for eternity.
No, people choose to reject Jesus and His teaching and place themselves there because of sin. That which they love they do not want to give up.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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No, people choose to reject Jesus and His teaching and place themselves there because of sin. That which they love they do not want to give up.
Correct answer, this is what the Bible teaches.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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was Jesus a christian?

was Abramham a chrstian?

Abramham was not a christian.


you said:

He trusted in the coming Messiah and waited for Him.



If i am waiting for a bus, does that make me a bus because iam waitjing for it?
Hebrews 11:32And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, 33who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37They were stoned[f]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 39These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
13All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. 14People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:03 PM
 
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No, people choose to reject Jesus and His teaching and place themselves there because of sin. That which they love they do not want to give up.
Ah, so God doesn't want people to be tormented in fire, but His hands are tied so He has to let them burn forever.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Ah, so God doesn't want people to be tormented in fire, but His hands are tied so He has to let them burn forever.
Hebrews 11:6
"And without faith it is impossible to please God"
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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Matthew 22:32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' [ Exodus 3:6] ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
Luke 13:28 "There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
Romans 4:3 TN
What does Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness." [ Gen. 15:6; also in verse 22]
Galatians 3:18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

Galatians 3:29
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," [Gen. 15:6] and he was called God's friend.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:06 PM
 
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Hebrews 11:6
"And without faith it is impossible to please God"
Ah so then it does please God for them to burn for eternity?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Comunistafornia, and working to get out ASAP!
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Ah, so God doesn't want people to be tormented in fire, but His hands are tied so He has to let them burn forever.
I don't know why I argue these points with people that are bent on their own inflated opinions.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:21 PM
 
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I don't know why I argue these points with people that are bent on their own inflated opinions.
Marks, its quite simple.

Either God does or doesn't want people to burn for eternity. Which is it?

And if God doesn't want people to burn for eternity, why do they?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
 
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Ah so then it does please God for them to burn for eternity?
So you think God is unjust?

Psalm 5:4
You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell.
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