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And because you speak 5 languages makes you an all knowing expert?? Where's the Holy Spirit in this "intellectual" superior attitude? Exactly. Just because you think you are more intelligent than everyone else in the entire world does not mean you're right...actually, you're WAY wrong. Preterism is just another false doctrine just like Universalism.
Preterism is a claim, just like Dispensationalism and everything else for that matter. Speaking five languages helps when you are studying another language, such as Greek, or even Hebrew...especially that of the ancients....so yes...it does give me a leg up on others who don't. Pretersim does not deny that Christ is God, unlike many UR'ers on this forum, and preterism does hold those that sin in this life is accountable for their reward in the next life, unlike UR. So please, before you start throwing stones at those who hold certain views, I would suggest you educate yourself in those views before you begin to attack them....as I have done in UR, dispensationalism (which I was for a long time).
Let me ask you something; where in the scripture did it say, that Christ would come, in His own fleshly body, and reign on earth for 1000 years?
Where in scripture does it state a rapture for that matter?
Where in scripture does it sate that Israel will build another temple, 2000 years after they lost their second?
They can't build their temple, they can't practice their religion to its full....why is this?
Because every record that was kept since Moses was destroyed in 70 AD.
Every one of them...no Levites...no more....why is this?
But this thread isn't about preterism is it?
So start another one without hijacking this thread, and I will gladly point out to all of you, with the help of the UR camp that adheres to this view, precisely why the Jews are NO longer the covenant people anymore.
They are pagan...worshipping a dead god.
Christ came and died, so that they, the Jews, the apostate polity that killed every messenger that God sent to help steer them in the right path, and resurrected, so that they, the harlot, could re=marry Him again...with a clean slate. Too bad for them, but that lampstand has already been removed.
Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
It does not exist . There is no such verb form in English. When you use it in English you reveal your ignorance. Wiktionary is not an authoritative source . . . neither are your self-professed language skills. Deal with it!
Thanks for the insult.....but I posted it from Wikitionary, because I figured, that's where you needed to begin.
I am always available for more lessons on the study of the Word of God.
I meant no insult to you and if you took it that way.. well just know that I just needed to point out that the word means a person skilled in exegesis..
So the way you were using it was incorrect. Now you are saying that there is a verb form.. but even then your usage was incorrect.. To exegete would mean to be a person skilled in exegesis? Because exegete is not a verb then it makes no sense to exegete..
I am sure your intelligence is far superior to mine when it comes to other languages but I did minor in English grammar so when I see something like that for the umpteenth time I feel compelled to let you know that you are using it incorrectly.. denying that is kinda fruitless and it is apparent that you do have trouble with constructive criticism. But again.. my purpose was to point it out so that the use of it as a verb would not be spread to others..
I meant no insult to you and if you took it that way.. well just know that I just needed to point out that the word means a person skilled in exegesis..
So the way you were using it was incorrect. Now you are saying that there is a verb form.. but even then your usage was incorrect.. To exegete would mean to be a person skilled in exegesis? Because exegete is not a verb then it makes no sense to exegete..
I am sure your intelligence is far superior to mine when it comes to other languages but I did minor in English grammar so when I see something like that for the umpteenth time I feel compelled to let you know that you are using it incorrectly.. denying that is kinda fruitless and it is apparent that you do have trouble with constructive criticism. But again.. my purpose was to point it out so that the use of it as a verb would not be spread to others..
Katonjj and Mystic...I cached the page so you can find the words to help you further...this is just one of the many sites that reveal your ignorance in the subject we are concerned with here...feel free to search further.
Are you saying that the above chapters show that believing that Christ is God is a requirement for salvation?
First you must believe that Christ is God, then through that act of faith, your salvation is cemented through your works and grace provided through the Holy Spirit.
Read the chapters in their full and contemplate them, and research their relevance to the rest of the scriptures. The Holy Spirit will guide you.
I believe UR is an error, however I don't see it being damnable, but through the acceptance that Christ is the manifestation of God in the flesh, you will be released form this error, in time.
Jesus is one of three manifestations of God all being co-equal and relegating us to what he teaches is a mystery. A non-believer (although
a good person ) positively cannot grasp or understand this mystery according to scripture, so christians knowing this don't get too
put out when "religions" get doctrines that oppose this belief (it's ok we
get that). Additionally, even a newbee christian is general not equiped
to explain the three in one (yet only one) concept. (It's God doing His
God only thang!) and we followers often say geez God what's with that?
Actually, even with my pagan roots as a Catholic I was able to decipher
the so-called trinity (not a scriptural term, but it's ok for human comun-
ication). I won my High School bulletin board contest in explaining the
triune God. God said in Genesis "let us (pleural as pleural can get lol )and make man in our image,in likeness etc." Jesus then was conceived
by the Holy Spirit from not so surprisingly in the lineage of House of David
(not a coinsidence) Jesus HAD to be man (human) in order to live 33 years
and fullfill a predestined suffering and dying (sacrificial lamb) for all sin.
Anyway, Jesus gave us many tidbits (without saying HELLOOOO!) I would
have said hello.but Jesus was nice. "I and my Father are ONE" "If you have seen me you HAVE seen the Father" I'am whom you speak" ie,God...Jews got " I'am" or specifically God, but didn't buy it . Study,pray,and get it!!!
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That is a very well thought out and interesting article.. the list of verses likely took a while to compose.. but.. yep I have a but ()
If God gave all God's authority to Christ then all those titles and attributes are given to Christ by God yet remain God's....
What part of this do you not understand? Giver vs receiver...
As I said. A mud brick would understand from the scriptures that Jesus Christ is God.
Mike...I think we have sent some scrambling into study...you have really amazed me, and I am most definitely sure you have truly glorified and edified Christ! Great Job...now don't punch me in the nose for being a Pret ok? At least we agree on very, very fundamental issues regarding the faith!
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Reason: I punched myself in the nose
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Jesus is not the Father
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At least we agree on very, very fundamental issues regarding the faith!
