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actually that is universal salvation which I only chalk it up to abhorrent teaching not heresy but universalism is nothing close to Christianity. Universalism may have similar tenets of Christianity but when you dig deeper our understanding of sin, trinity, salvation, nature of God to name a few are worlds apart.
LOL wow fundy are you starting to come around? Universal salvation is now only "abhorrent teaching" instead of satanic heresy that sends you to hell!
But when you say "universalism is nothing close to Christianity"... are you talking about biblical Christian Universal Salvation (which is what I hold to) or something like Unitarian Universalism (which I don't hold to, nor know know much about).
If mainstream Christianity removes the artificial "fate sealed at death" doctrine, then you are basically left with universal salvation.
I like analogies, so I have a light-hearted one that applies to the OP.
A little boy arrived home from school one day and he found a note on the kitchen table written to him from his Father. It said, "Gone out back to the woods to shoot the dog."
The little boy could determine that his dad is killing the dog because that's what he wrote in the note. Or, he could determine that since his father is a wonderful dad and he loves the dog, that he wouldn't do anything like that, although it might be confusing. He could trust the note because it did say he was shooting the dog, or trust his belief in his father's character and try to figure it out. He might even give it some thought and figure out that his dad is a photographer so he meant that he was going to shoot a picture of the dog.
So, since written words can be interpreted differently, I choose to place my trust and faith in God's character first, and then figure out what the Bible is teaching.
I like analogies, so I have a light-hearted one that applies to the OP.
A little boy arrived home from school one day and he found a note on the kitchen table written to him from his Father. It said, "Gone out back to the woods to shoot the dog."
The little boy could determine that his dad is killing the dog because that's what he wrote in the note. Or, he could determine that since his father is a wonderful dad and he loves the dog, that he wouldn't do anything like that, although it might be confusing. He could trust the note because it did say he was shooting the dog, or trust his belief in his father's character and try to figure it out. He might even give it some thought and figure out that his dad is a photographer so he meant that he was going to shoot a picture of the dog.
So, since written words can be interpreted differently, I choose to place my trust and faith in God's character first, and then figure out what the Bible is teaching.
You are truly a Bright Hope for Tomorrow . . . I have tried and failed miserably in thousands of posts to convey this aspect of written communication to the literalist fundamentalists . . . and here you do it so eloquently and easily in a simple story. God bless you, brother.
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. . . and here you do it so eloquently and easily in a simple story. God bless you, brother.
