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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 66 4.89%
Phil 25 1.85%
DC 121 8.96%
Atlanta 807 59.78%
Memphis 21 1.56%
New ORleans 33 2.44%
Houston 29 2.15%
Seattle 14 1.04%
Chicago 35 2.59%
Detroit 84 6.22%
Other (include in your reply) 14 1.04%
There is none. 101 7.48%
Voters: 1350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-28-2020, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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I specifically said commodity for a reason. Government could be considered an industry (of sorts) but it isn't a commodity.
Government provides commodities and function as an industry if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:43 PM
 
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Government provides commodities and function as an industry if I'm not mistaken.
I already stated that government can be considered an industry (loosely speaking), but no, it does not provide commodities. The point is that a major city with a local economy heavily driven by a commodity like oil makes it uniquely susceptible to national and global economic swings; that isn't true of our national capital which is the seat of the federal government. In fact, it's generally the opposite as that tends to confer a great deal of economic stability.

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Old 04-29-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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I don’t buy it. Minneapolis and especially buffalo have Lower rates of Black foreign born than NYC Boston and DC. And it doesn’t account for Phoenix or Milwaukee at all.
I didn't say that it was the only factor, but it is a factor in both, especially Minneapolis. Buffalo has had refugees from some African nations move into the city's West Side for a while now as well.
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Old 04-29-2020, 09:19 AM
 
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But honestly..how many people are ACTUALLY middle class or feel that they are. Even if those neighborhoods arent rare birds, I don’t think they’re the majority of black folks either. Most middle class black people don’t live around a ton of other black people because they can’t. So I don’t think most black people live in middle class neighborhoods. You gotta search for them a bit in most places. Every Major city has at least one, most have a few.

When I say rare I’m talking an ATL/DC/TX situation where you can almost throw a dart at a map of the metro area and be a 15 minute drive to if not IN a middle class black/diverse suburban area. That what I mean by a SEA of middle class black areas. Especially ones with a big/modern house and yard. It could be a lot of places due to the mid size cities in the south just not a majority of black people from what I’ve seen.

But for every ATL/DC/Houston there’s a few Milwaukee/Fresno/Providence/Youngstown’s out there (I wouldn’t recommend Fresno or Youngstown lol)
In terms of the bolded line, Cleveland may actually be somewhat underrated in that regard, in terms of parts of its eastern suburbs like Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights, South Euclid, University Heights, Bedford, Bedford Heights, Maple Heights, Warrenville Heights, Beachwood, Woodmere, Richmond Heights, Euclid, etc. Its metro percentage is 20% and its eastern half is probably more like 30% or so.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Huntsville Area
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We heard from the granddaughter over in Memphis. She works as an Operating Room Tech at The Med in orthopedics, and is looking to buy a starter house.

In the great social experiment called Memphis, if a single mother buys a FHA house, the government will match their down payment. Her grandmother is wanting to gift her $5,000 to get her started in life. Free $5,000 from The Guvment is not a half bad deal either.

No one can discriminate against her either, despite her being a very white girl.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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In terms of the bolded line, Cleveland may actually be somewhat underrated in that regard, in terms of parts of its eastern suburbs like Shaker Heights, Cleveland Heights, South Euclid, University Heights, Bedford, Bedford Heights, Maple Heights, Warrenville Heights, Beachwood, Woodmere, Richmond Heights, Euclid, etc. Its metro percentage is 20% and its eastern half is probably more like 30% or so.
Some views of such areas...

Euclid(in block group that is 75% black and has a median household income of about $63k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5509...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Shaker Heights(census tract that is 55% black and a median household income of about $57k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4607...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

South Euclid(census tract that is about 75% black and median household income of about $57k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5431...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

University Heights(census tract that is about 54% black and median household income of about $52k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5001...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Maybe some more later...
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:58 AM
 
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Some views of such areas...

Euclid(in block group that is 75% black and has a median household income of about $63k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5509...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Shaker Heights(census tract that is 55% black and a median household income of about $57k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4607...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

South Euclid(census tract that is about 75% black and median household income of about $57k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5431...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

University Heights(census tract that is about 54% black and median household income of about $52k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5001...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Maybe some more later...
Richmond Heights(census block group that is about 50% and a median household income of about $55k(tract it is in is about 40% and about $59k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5672...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Beechwood(census block group about 87% and $64k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4588...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Bedford Heights(census tract about 80% black and median household income around $53k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4000...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Mayor in up right corner: https://www.bedfordheights.gov/

Cleveland Heights(census tract about 59% black and about $61k median household income): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5060...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

(census tract about 55% black and about $55k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4988...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Woodmere(small incorporated community of about 800 that is 49% black and more lower middle class(about $47k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4591...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Its mayor: The Mayor - Village of Woodmere
More info: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...RIES.CG00ORG01

May add even more later from Cleveland's eastern suburbs, as there are other communities with areas that are at least lower middle class and up that are predominantly black.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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Richmond Heights(census block group that is about 50% and a median household income of about $55k(tract it is in is about 40% and about $59k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5672...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Beechwood(census block group about 87% and $64k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4588...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Bedford Heights(census tract about 80% black and median household income around $53k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4000...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Mayor in up right corner: https://www.bedfordheights.gov/

Cleveland Heights(census tract about 59% black and about $61k median household income): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5060...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

(census tract about 55% black and about $55k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4988...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Woodmere(small incorporated community of about 800 that is 49% black and more lower middle class(about $47k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4591...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Its mayor: The Mayor - Village of Woodmere
More info: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...RIES.CG00ORG01

May add even more later from Cleveland's eastern suburbs, as there are other communities with areas that are at least lower middle class and up that are predominantly black.
Warrensville Heights(block group is about 91% black and median household income around $51k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4379...6!9m2!1b1!2i37
Its mayor, who formerly played in the NBA: https://www.cityofwarrensville.com/1...dley-D-Sellers

Maple Heights(block group is about 80% black and median household income around $57k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4147...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
More info: https://www.citymapleheights.com/

Bedford(block group about 65% black and a more lower middle class $44k median household income): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4059...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Garfield Heights(block group that is 98% black and a more lower middle class median household income of $47k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4366...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Even East Cleveland(block group next to Cleveland Heights(Forest Hill area straddles city line) that is about 83% black and median household income of around $58k): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5266...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

Some of these Cleveland suburbs listed have other census block groups or tracts that would fit as well, with some areas that are more diverse with a substantial black percentage and middle class. Parts of Cleveland's Collingwood area(North and South) next to Euclid has some areas that are more middle class and that have high or predominantly black as well. This development in nearby Willoughby Hills is in a predominantly black and more working class block group: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5816...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

Almost all of these places range from generally working class to even upper middle class, with general percentages to can go from around 12%(Beachwood) to 91.2%(Warrensville Heights) black. East Cleveland, Bedford, Bedford Heights, Maple Heights and Euclid are predominantly black, while Richmond Heights, Cleveland Heights, South Euclid and Garfield Heights are in the 40's in terms of percentage(Richmond and Garfield are pluralistically more black). University Heights is 22%.

Shaker Heights is 35.3% and is the most affluent out of all of these communities with a median household income of $83,420 and poverty rate of 8.9%. Poverty rates range from 3.6%(Beachwood) to 38.9%(East Cleveland). Out of the rest, only Maple Heights(22.4%) and Warrensville Heights(23.8%) are above 20%.

All of these communities are continuous as well. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4924089,-81.4721491,12z

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Old 04-30-2020, 04:39 PM
 
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^Correction, Beachwood has a median household income of $89,706, making it the most affluent community listed.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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^^^
And home ownership of these neighborhoods?
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