Interesting Changes to Metros after 2000 census. I wonder if they will upend and redo the list again after this one (cost, populations)

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by killakoolaide

By UA Detroit is larger than Houston. Interesting.

yes, if you were in the year 2000. it no longer is. take Houston's number and add a million, take detroits number add maybe 20K

[HtownLove]

Top 10 before the change:

1. LA 9.5 M
2. NY 9.3M
3. Chicago 8.2M
4. Boston 6.0M
5. Philadelphia 5.1M
6. Detroit 4.4M
7. Washington 4.2M
8. Houston 4.1M
9. Atlanta 4.1M
10. Dallas 3.5M


Top 10 after the change

1. New York 18.3M
2. LA 12.3M
3. Chicago 9.1M
4. Philadelphia 5.6M
5. DFW 5.1M
6. Miami 5.0M
7. Washington 4.7M
8. Houston 4.7M
9. Detroit 4.4M
10. Boston 4.3


one thing that no one has discussed, and that should be glaring in any doubting Thomas's eyes that these were metros and not metro divisions are the numbers for Boston and Atlanta.

To those who thought these numbers were for metro divisions please tell me one principle area of the Boston Metro or the ATL metro that had 6M or 4.1M perople respectively?

what is more interesting however, is why those areas were removed

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

Actually as of the 2009 estmates Houston would be about 500K larger on UA

exactly my point. people see the old numbers and jump to conclusions.

btw, whats Detroit UA numbers for 09? Their metro is almost 2M smaller than Houston's The UA numbers must be more than 500K smaller

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

exactly my point. people see the old numbers and jump to conclusions.

btw, whats Detroit UA numbers for 09? Their metro is almost 2M smaller than Houston's The UA numbers must be more than 500K smaller

Houston 4.4 Million
Detroit 3.8 Million

so it is actually 500K + some change

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

Houston 4.4 Million
Detroit 3.8 Million

so it is actually 500K + some change

hmmm, we will see after the official census numbers come out. I think those estimates are short by almost a million

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

hmmm, we will see after the official census numbers come out. I think those estimates are short by almost a million

well remember UA requires continuous census blocks - Houston has well over a million people that are pretty far seperated by census block continuity

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

well remember UA requires continuous census blocks - Houston has well over a million people that are pretty far seperated by census block continuity

That may be but the ua estimates are 2M less than the Metro numbers. Houston Metro is approaching 6.1M right now

[killakoolaide]

Why is Houston's metro pop., so much larger than its UA pop? Weird.

[kidphilly]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

That may be but the ua estimates are 2M less than the Metro numbers. Houston Metro is approaching 6.1M right now

Yes but also why Metro is a difficult metric to compare, it is based arbitrary county boundaries and commuter rates - UA is based on population and continuity - DMA is based on population proximity and city association from a media and sociographic criteria


and closer to 2 or closer to 1.5, hmmm

[killakoolaide]

Originally Posted by kidphilly

Yes but also why Metro is a difficult metric to compare, it is based arbitrary county boundaries and commuter rates - UA is based on population and continuity - DMA is based on population proximity and city association from a media and sociographic criteria

DMA is whats fair and accurate, but remember, Htown's not concerned with accuracy. Its just concerned with a metric that inflates Houston's numbers and status.