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Adams Morgan feels pretty far IMHO; but understand your point. On thing to think about is even with the rows in Philly they are typically within 2 to 3 blocks of some assemblance of CBD; wouldnt say the same Adam Morgan. Adams Morgan is like a very small less edgy South Street which is actually not part of DT Philly either
If you are saying a rowhouse nabe on Pine, walking two blocks to Locust puts you firmly in the mixed work area, menaing highrises with many jobs and a place like Pine has intermixed highrises throughout. The one nabe technically considered CC that lack any real office concentration is Society Hill; which has more than its fair share of highrises but is vastly residential. Society Hill is probably one of Americans greatest Urban renewal neighborhoods and also is the largest collection of colonial architecture in the country. It also is home most of the Independence Mall National Historic Park; this is a very residential Nabe with the only office towers on Walnut between 3rd and 6th. But this neighborhood will always be this way; it is basically a living museum in many ways at this point.
Lastly Philly is developed as an old style mixed use, Not all exisits in the same building. If your criteria is solely office buildings have at it. If it solely some uniform build have at it. DC is the only uniform building styled city in the sountry, what you prefer or use to define. If you dont like rowhomes in the CBD you must hate Midtown Manhattan as well
DC has an expansive, sterile downtown. Philadelphia has a compact, vibrant downtown. There's your difference.
Hmmmm! DC has more people DT during the day. Philly has more people DT during the night. So much for your vibrancy argument. Philly's DT is the size of Gallery Place/Penn Quarter/Mt Vernon Sq.
DC has a larger footprint, see page one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten etc.
No Shaw doesnt feel like DT, has some characteristics but is nothing like living at 20th and Spruce in Philly where you are literally seconds from everything. Shaw will still feel more like a Queen Village to close but not on top of the core
I am fine with extending the DT; end of the day it just spreads more. U City in Philly is probably more DT in your eyes than would be Society Hill; it is actually the most similar development style to DT DC in Philly, though I dont consider it DT Philly, maybe the extended DT, of which maybe Shaw qualifies and will moreso in the future (actually really like this area, like Woodley park and the accesss to Rock Creak if I have place correct). There is concentration to the core in regards to DT and many grey aspects
So, if Shaw is not going to be downtown D.C., D.C. won't have a downtown then because Shaw is going to look exactly like downtown D.C. See, that is what I mean, you keep looking at D.C. through Philly eyes. The construction moving in Shaw right now is going to give it the same intensity as Logan Circle. Is Logan Circle downtown D.C.? Drive up seventh street in 2015 from Gallery Place to the Howard Campus and you will not see one break in 9 story high rise development which is just like Gallery. Where exactly will downtown stop on your ride up 7th street?
Hmmmm! DC has more people DT during the day. Philly has more people DT during the night. So much for your vibrancy argument. Philly's DT is the size of Gallery Place/Penn Quarter/Mt Vernon Sq.
correct but at a lower density (meaning there are people per sq mile DT in Philly compared to DC); both are very active during the day one is far more active at night; though DC has pockets of very active areas just not the cosnsitency nor cohesion but is absolutely getting better in this regard.
So, if Shaw is not going to be downtown D.C., D.C. won't have a downtown then because Shaw is going to look exactly like downtown D.C. See, that is what I mean, you keep looking at D.C. through Philly eyes. The construction moving in Shaw right now is going to give it the same intensity as Logan Circle. Is Logan Circle downtown D.C.? Drive up seventh street in 2015 from Gallery Place to the Howard Campus and you will not see one break in 9 story high rise development which is just like Gallery. Where exactly will downtown stop on your ride up 7th street?
think its grey but will say again
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Originally Posted by kidphilly
DC has a larger footprint, see page one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten etc.
Your first paragragh is a bit misleading. In DC, you can basically have dinner in DT; walk a few blocks to Dupont Circle to a bar or U street or Adams Morgan to a club or afterhours spot. Posts like these make me really question if some of you have ever been to DC. DC is consistently ranked in the top 5 as most walkable cities. I have never ever heard anyone say that Central DC is not walkable.
Where can you eat in Downtown DC and "walk a few blocks to a bar on U Street?"
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