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View Poll Results: Which city has the best downtown?
Philadelphia 120 45.28%
Boston 99 37.36%
DC 46 17.36%
Voters: 265. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-21-2012, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Denver
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It's probably a bunch of ghost votes for all 3 cities (as always on city data). Thats why I like public polls because you can tell which polls are rigged or not. Don't u find it mysterious how Boston gets like 25 votes in 1 week?
That's why I prefer there to be a public vote...because if it took 25 votes in a week for Boston to tie Philly, then yea there's almost definitely some ghost voters. But at the same time I think Philadelphia having that kind of lead took a lot of ghost votes in itself. I think most put Boston & Philadelphia in a similar spot when rating CC vs DT Boston, so I don't think the gap would be that large naturally...also not to mention there has been some heavy arguing with DCers on this thread by Philadelphians...a sure way to "secure superiority" would be to fake some votes.

FWIW, I didn't vote. I think CC and Boston are tied in pretty much every account.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:38 AM
 
Location: NYC/PHiLLY
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Nah, we just love DT DC because it has so many more tourists, transit options, museums, sporting events, cultural activities, new projects being built, employment, commercial office space, iconic structures, world events, media outlets, restaurants, diversity and sophistication.
Is that why all you guys do is talk about areas outside of DT DC?
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:39 AM
 
Location: NYC/PHiLLY
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It's probably a bunch of ghost votes for all 3 cities (as always on city data). Thats why I like public polls because you can tell which polls are rigged or not. Don't u find it mysterious how Boston gets like 25 votes in 1 week?
Exactly.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Surprised this isn't a true 3-way race. It seems that some people don't like that DC's downtown is not as developed as PHI, BOS or SF. Does that really take away from the city's appeal against the other top 7 cities? By the way, these 3 cities are all 3 of my top 7 favorites. They would probably actually be ranked 4,5 and 6 or 7.

Actually DT DC is more developed. Emporis states that DT DC has more buildings than Philly and Boston but if you let these yokals tell you otherwise, it isn't.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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CC has significantly more transit options, and rail lines, though is under utilized, one of the largest media conglomerations in the world, much more density, including restaurant density. Is at least as diverse as DT DC. CC is on another level compared to DT DC, everyone knows that. DT Boston is also a tier above DT DC. DC has made some great strides but is still a baby in the game relatively speaking
You must be on some Reggie Bush or K2! DT DC has more people than Philly during the day. More people on it's trains. More subway stations and more restaurants. Philly has Comcast! So what. DC has NPR, BET, National Geographic, CSPAN, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, Al Jezeera, etc.....
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: The City
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As usual DC please check your facts

Also NBC is owned by Comcast; though am sure DC has more news centers, hell it is th capital of the free world, makes sense.

On people the DT density is higher in CC than DT DC (DC has more people spread over a larger area with less concentration and again this is the point we keep making), fact, the nightime density is CONSIDERABLY above DC; by a large margin

On the buildings. There are more buildings over 100 ft tall, not more buildings and because of the way the cities there is a big distinction. Are you suggesting that DC has a higher developed density? Becuase that is absolutely false when compared to Boston or Philly


And why go back to the restaurants. We have proved you false on this claim everytime you bring it up and its not even close; you guys do have far more potbellys though, will give you that


Why do you post the same false claims over and over again as if it is like if you post them enough people may actually believe you.

I like DC and its DT and it offers a lot but you post stuff that really is just not true

Cat Calling at Potbelly by the bowling alley is not my idea of the urban experience quite honestly; though DC and its DT get better every year, absolutely

on the subway stations, there are 13 subway stations in the Philly DT, 4 underground Trolly stations and two undergorund Regional rail stations that collectively serve 24 different rail lines (so 48 seperate underground rail line stations in Center City) sadly the capacity is under utilized
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Sigh. Don't post anything about a city if you do not know what you are talking about. First those suburban homes you posted are projects. Second it's in about three square blocks. Third this is North Philly... not Center City. This area of Lower North Philadelphia is being gentrified and when gentrification gets to this area these houses can easily be knocked down and replaced... these buildings are made out of cheap materials and do not cost much... demo of them will not cost much either since there is not many of them. Come on MDAllstar you're supposed to be the development "Allstar" here you should know this stuff. PHA made the mistake of building these suburban like projects. The Planning Commission for Philly realized the mistakes, gave PHA a slap on the wrists and now they are building very urban again. Here is an example of the new designs.









This entire suburban area you pointed out is West Poplar. The area will be leveled and completely redeveloped one day

philadelphia pa - Google Maps
These look really good. A lot of projects in Boston are getting a similar treatment, where this:

Masshousing.com

Becomes this:

iconarch.com

The former walls off the development, and is inward focused. The latter engages with the external community. Also, the new projects are a mixture of subsidized housing, market rate rentals, and owner occupied condos. They are much more urban and much better for the neighborhood and residents.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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As usual DC please check your facts

Also NBC is owned by Comcast

On the buildings. There are more buildings over 100 ft tall, not more buildings and because of the way the cities there is a bid distinction. Are you suggesting that DC has a higher developed density? Becuase that is absolutely false when compared to Boston or Philly
Structural density yes! How do you account for the greater number of buildings and the gigantic amount of office space? Break it down for me.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: The City
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Structural density yes! How do you account for the greater number of buildings and the gigantic amount of office space? Break it down for me.

DC has more office space and far less residential space. Also the number of building above 100ft are not required in the same way in Boston or Philly, they can up - tough to compare on some metrics as the height differences are significant.

DC has no shortage of office space; both a blessing and a curse depending on the aspect you are evaluating. Philly needs to do a better job at attrackting more jobs to the DT IMHO; no argument here but on the DT vibrancy it does excel. Also it has a large job base despite that it could do much better in this regard.
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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These look really good. A lot of projects in Boston are getting a similar treatment, where this:

Masshousing.com

Becomes this:

iconarch.com

The former walls off the development, and is inward focused. The latter engages with the external community. Also, the new projects are a mixture of subsidized housing, market rate rentals, and owner occupied condos. They are much more urban and much better for the neighborhood and residents.
Wow! Very impressive Boston. Glad to see some low income folks getting love in Boston too. Yeah a lot of developments in Philadelphia are getting a mix of subsidized housing, market rate rentals and owner condos as well. It definitely helps to cute down crime and drug usage... you are a product of your environment and giving low income folks a better quality of life is certainly the right thing to do.
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