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Its difficult to do a city vs city with these three since each has features the others don't. They are all great towns in their own ways, and Ohio is fortunate to have these three cities. It's as if Pennyslvania had a third big city in the middle of the state to compliment Pittsburgh & Philadelphia, or if Jeff City was a third big city in Missouri to compliment Kansas City and St Louis.
I have relatives across Ohio. Gotta visit that state sometime and see for myself. I set foot there once as a kid from Indiana...but other than that, I can't say anything.
Cleveland has a wonderful lake, but you would never know it. There are no small shops/businesses, entertainment, restaurants, etc.. with direct access to the lake. When you drive Rt.6 along the lake, it is consumed by homes. The lake is not a huge positive because for the most part, it is not accessible unless you own a boat. It's a real shame too.
The lake makes for crazy winters as well with lake effect snow.
I have lived here all my life and you would never know there is this huge lake here, a beautiful resource that is not taken advantage of.
I would love to be able to go downtown right to the lake and have a great dinner and be able to look out at the lake. Then, afterwards, go shopping on a boardwalk with views of the lake. But it doesn't exist. You would never know it is here.
And yet, after all this time and all the jokes, the lake is still dirty and polluted. Not like the past, but still needs to come a long way. Part of the problem is some of the older cities still have a combined sanitary and runoff sewer system that overflows and polutes the lake/rivers during heavy rains. Lake Erie is not the same as the other great lakes, you don't really want to swim in it for fear of getting sick. It's improving, but still needs work.
On the positive side of Cleveland, there are some terrific things such as the Cleveland Orchestra, great healthcare, museums and cultural things to do, 3 sports teams (but for how long), a Continental Hub (that is surely going away in 3 years with the United merger).
Cleveland has a wonderful lake, but you would never know it. There are no small shops/businesses, entertainment, restaurants, etc.. with direct access to the lake. When you drive Rt.6 along the lake, it is consumed by homes. The lake is not a huge positive because for the most part, it is not accessible unless you own a boat. It's a real shame too.
The lake makes for crazy winters as well with lake effect snow.
I have lived here all my life and you would never know there is this huge lake here, a beautiful resource that is not taken advantage of.
I would love to be able to go downtown right to the lake and have a great dinner and be able to look out at the lake. Then, afterwards, go shopping on a boardwalk with views of the lake. But it doesn't exist. You would never know it is here.
And yet, after all this time and all the jokes, the lake is still dirty and polluted. Not like the past, but still needs to come a long way. Part of the problem is some of the older cities still have a combined sanitary and runoff sewer system that overflows and polutes the lake/rivers during heavy rains. Lake Erie is not the same as the other great lakes, you don't really want to swim in it for fear of getting sick. It's improving, but still needs work.
I don't think Lake Erie is really any worse off than the other Great Lakes. It seems to be better off than Lake Michigan anyway. Lake Erie still has a rather large commercial fishing industry, so that should tell you something.
I don't agree with it being a none factor either, even though it could be much better developed near downtown Cleveland. There are several parks that give you access and many river tributaries that are good for fishing and canoeing. Also, a lot of those houses that block the lake are on cliffside properties. Even if you made more public land in those areas it would just lead to a cliff, so its not like a beach would be there.
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