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View Poll Results: What city in the south has the most "big city" feel?
Atlanta 93 27.84%
Charlotte 4 1.20%
Dallas 46 13.77%
Fort Worth 1 0.30%
Houston 94 28.14%
Jacksonville 1 0.30%
Memphis 4 1.20%
Miami 66 19.76%
New Orleans 23 6.89%
Oklahoma City 0 0%
San Antonio 2 0.60%
Tampa 0 0%
Voters: 334. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 01-09-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Houston & Miami-Fort Lauderdale are the only two answers here when it comes to "big city" feel off urbanity when it comes to staying consistent (one-two finish for Houston & Miami except on 100 mile radial core region). Houston & Dallas-Fort Worth when it comes to "expansive continuous regions". Here is information on the core radius populations.

2 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 155,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 103,000
- Houston: 75,000
- Detroit: 73,000
- Atlanta: 72,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 49,000

5 Miles from the Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 700,000
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 600,000
- Houston 500,000
- Detroit 500,000
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 400,000
- San Francisco-Oakland: 400,000
- Atlanta: 400,000

25 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 4.1 Million
- Houston: 3.7 Million
- Detroit: 3.6 Million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 3.6 Million
- Boston: 3.4 Million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 3.3 Million
- Atlanta: 3.1 Million

100 Miles from Radial Core Region:
- Washington DC: 12.4 Million
- Bay Area: 11.0 million
- Atlanta: 8.7 million
- Houston: 7.8 million
- Dallas-Fort Worth: 7.7 million
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale: 5.8 million

Source: http://www.narprail.org/cms/images/u...eets_all08.pdf

Atlanta really picks up and beats the other southern cities (Houston, Miami, Dallas-Fort Worth) when it comes to having a radial core region of 100 miles from center point, but that is far too sprawled out. For direct density and region of the core inhabited area, the 2 mile & 5 mile ones are the best for the immediate area. Everything after that just starts going across the state and into far out distances.
Yep, Miami gets weaker a little further out, but inside those 1st 10-15 miles, it's probably one the most "big-city" in the South(That's if we don't include DC). Miami being waaaaaay geographically smaller than the rest, really helps out. Imagine if Miami were to annex Miami Beach, Coral Gables, North Miami, North Miami Beach, and Aventura.

 
Old 01-09-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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radius dosent work in miami because of the everglades. miami is much more dense then houston. houston covers almost 700 square miles. if miami added up its connected suburbs to have 700 square miles it would have way more the 2.3 million people.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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radius dosent work in miami because of the everglades. miami is much more dense then houston. houston covers almost 700 square miles. if miami added up its connected suburbs to have 700 square miles it would have way more the 2.3 million people.

lol, where the heck did you find that Figure.

Houston is 579 sq miles, not almost 700.
anyway, I would still pick Houston as having the bigger city feel than Miami for that exact reason, it feels bigger over more area. Wandering around in the everglades doesn't feel like big city to me.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 04:53 PM
 
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what kind of city dosent even have an average density of 5,000 people per square mile?
 
Old 01-09-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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Yeah, that is true, also. But, at least there is a lot to see. It's a fun drive.



Have you ever driven through Houston? The reason it feels larger than Atlanta is because it has more buildings than Atlanta. All lining up against the freeway. I'd say the Inner Loop of Houston has just as many high-rises as all of Atlanta's buildings from the Perimeter on in.
Dude Houston has over 400 high rise in over 600 sq mi. Atlanta has over 200 high rise in less than 150 sq mi. Houston does have more High rises but itís not significant if Atlanta was over 600 sq mi Atlanta would be around over 400 high rise as well. That all of the city of Houston 600 sq mi not the inner loop. Itís the trees in Atlanta that block development that makes Metro Atlanta feel a lot smaller.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Dude Houston has over 400 high rise in over 600 sq mi. Atlanta has over 200 high rise in less than 150 sq mi. Houston does have more High rises but it’s not significant if Atlanta was over 600 sq mi
That's not true, Houston's bulk of skyscrapers is all inside the Inner Loop, a 96 square mile land area. Downtown Houston, Texas Medical Center, Uptown Houston, Greenway Plaza, Neartown, Near North Houston, Midtown Houston are all inside the Inner Loop.

The only concentrations of major skyscraper zone that I can think up that aren't in Inner Loop are Energy Corridor, Memorial City, & West Chase District. That's it. And with all the high rises and skyscrapers in those combined, they only have less than 65 high rises/skyscrapers out of Houston's near 400 or so.

The picture Scarface713 posted of Houston's combined skyline is ALL within the Inner Loop of Houston.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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minneapolis and stpaul have a way higher density then houston and so do many many suburbs. houston is the 4th largest city in the us with 2.3 million in 579 square miles and people from houston try and compare to cities like chicago with 2.9 million in 227 square miles. houston has alot of tall buildings but most of houston looks and feels like a suburb. take a trip and visit the north side of chicago and you will see what a real city feels like.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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minneapolis and stpaul have a way higher density then houston and so do many many suburbs. houston is the 4th largest city in the us with 2.3 million in 579 square miles and people from houston try and compare to cities like chicago with 2.9 million in 227 square miles. houston has alot of tall buildings but most of houston looks and feels like a suburb. take a trip and visit the north side of chicago and you will see what a real city feels like.

this is about southern cities, not Chicago. take your silly talk elsewhere
 
Old 01-09-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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Dude Houston has over 400 high rise in over 600 sq mi. Atlanta has over 200 high rise in less than 150 sq mi. Houston does have more High rises but it’s not significant if Atlanta was over 600 sq mi Atlanta would be around over 400 high rise as well. That all of the city of Houston 600 sq mi not the inner loop. It’s the trees in Atlanta that block development that makes Metro Atlanta feel a lot smaller.
Nah man, Houston just has more high rises than Atlanta in general. Downtown Houston is the size of Downtown + Midtown Atlanta. Then, Uptown Houston is larger than Buckhead. Then what else? You still have the Texas Medical Center, Greenway Plaza, and the Brookhollow area for Houston's Inner Loop skylines. Atlanta only has the Sandy Springs and Vinings area for any skyline of significance. Outside of the Inner Loop, Houston still has the Energy Corridor, Westchase, Memorial City, Greenspoint, and The Woodlands.
 
Old 01-09-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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Atlanta has over 200 high rise in less than 150 sq mi.
lol if that is true then Houston has twice the number of buildings in a smaller area. Most of the buildings we are talking about is in a 100sq mile area. Heck it is all in the western half of that 100 sq mile area. The buildings we are talking about are all west of 288/59 north
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