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Of these four cities, which one offers more amenities, culture, night-life, museums, sports etc?
All four of these cities are similar in size, but Wichita is the largest and quickly widening the gap.
It looks like Wichita is leaving the other three behind.
^ What is wrong with this thread? Anybody? Don't most people see how ignorant it sounds to be even mentioning Wichita in the same breath and Cincinnati, St Louis and Pittsburgh? (no offense to wichita, but it's not even remotely in the same league as the others despite it being larger)
All these threads about the massive cities of Jacksonville, Indianapolis, San Antonio, Columbus etc is driving me nuts.
When comparing cities, you have to look at all variables that make up a metro area and how the city and metro are laid out. You have to basically ignore political boundaries.
Jacksonville might have nearly the same population as San Francisco, but come on. Would you seriously consider them comparable cities?
I can't wait for the new urbanized population numbers to come out. That is one of the only true ways to compare cities based on population and you still have to look at many other variables in order to even begin to compare two cities in a way that makes any sense.
St. Louis is a truly great American city. Cincinnati has a similar feel, but I do think that being in a relatively stagnant state like Ohio actually hurts it a lot. I think that St. Louis's history and geography lends a lot to its tremendous character.
Good point about city-to-city comparisons. To properly compare cities, you have to include entire urban areas. The central city may encompass only a small portion of its urban area (as in STL), or nearly all of the urban area (as in Wichita). So a city alone doesn't accurately represent the urban area as a whole.
Of the four places listed in the first post, three are metro areas of somewhat similar size, ranking #18, #22, and #27 in the US. But metro Wichita ranks way down at #84. And an 84th-ranked urban area cannot be expected to have comparable amenities to those in the top 30.
St. Louis is a truly great American city. Cincinnati has a similar feel, but I do think that being in a relatively stagnant state like Ohio actually hurts it a lot. I think that St. Louis's history and geography lends a lot to its tremendous character.
Unfortunately, the loss of a large amount of tax base in OH really hurts a lot when it comes to infrastructure improvements and development. It always feels several decades behind other areas of the US even though it does have plenty of new projects, infill, and newer construction (commerical and residential). However, the yellow plate stoplights feel like something straight out of a time capsule from the 70s or 80s!
Cant comment on Wichita since I have never been there. But of the other cities, I really like Pittsburgh. Great museums, colleges, Sports, Food/restaurants/Clubs, architecture all packed into natural setting surrounded by Hills and Rivers.
Wichita can't compare with Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and St. Louis, all three of which are very similar river cities and offer just about every amenity you could want.
Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and St. Louis have world-class museums, high-caliber arts organizations, healthy music scenes, multiple major colleges and universities, a major waterway, large airports, diverse neighborhoods, high-quality suburbs, interesting topography, pro sports, numerous Fortune 500 companies, important histories, rich character and more.
And Cincy, Pittsburgh and St. Louis are all closer to other major Midwest and Eastern cities, unlike the relatively isolated Wichita.
Wichita has won a sports championship more recently than Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh.
Do tell.
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