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Again, I'm not saying a car free lifestyle is impossible in DTLA, just that it's not as easy to do as it is in Center City.... are you saying it's just as easy? You can't be that big of a homer.
You really never answered as to why it's easier. Maybe your definition of 'easier' is different from mine. Thousands live in DTLA living car free lives happily. Everything you mentioned is done here. Take it from me who actually lives here. I never said anything about DTLA being better but you and a few others seem to make that point well known that it's not. But again, who cares.
DTLA will never be as "nice" as Center City as far as walkable urbanism is concerned, but I don't see why that matters.
Well, it won't be as quaint and historic nor have that tight street grid, but it's possible for it to have more residents (some of which would be families with children which is really rare now), retail, jobs, and people walking on the streets and to have filled out its surface parking lots. I think DTLA a decade from now will have something like the equivalent of what Center City has now in those terms given the current rate of development and the planned transit improvements and that's a really rapid rate of improvement.
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Well, it won't be as quaint and historic nor have that tight street grid, but it's possible for it to have more residents (some of which would be families with children which is really rare now), retail, jobs, and people walking on the streets and to have filled out its surface parking lots. I think DTLA a decade from now will have something like the equivalent of what Center City has now in those terms given the current rate of development and the planned transit improvements and that's a really rapid rate of improvement.
Brickell could very well have a larger population than City Center in 20 years time.
I think the buildout of CC will always make it "better" than DTLA for people who enjoy walkable urbanism. It enjoys a mix of uses unlike anywhere in the U.S. outside of Manhattan. But the CBD is only one aspect of a city and there are several reasons to prefer L.A. over Philly. I just don't think L.A.'s downtown will ever be one of those reasons.
In time, I could see DTLA shaping up more like Downtown DC, which isn't shabby by any stretch.
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I think people say that in reference to how it doesn't feel like it has a real urban center which isn't quite true. It just has a much smaller urban center than expected for a metropolis of its size and that urban center was truly dull and empty for several decades.
Comparing it to a borough is kind of sad as it's like comparing it to just a part of a city. It is populous though!
You meant 50 square miles. 850k people in a 50 mile radius wouldn't be very much density.
Yes i meant 50 sq miles of course,
And i compared it to a borough because each New York borough is actually a County.
So im really comparing L.A city to New York Counties,
Instead of L.A County vs other cities
Again, I'm not saying a car free lifestyle is impossible in DTLA, just that it's not as easy to do as it is in Center City.... are you saying it's just as easy? You can't be that big of a homer.
A car filled lifestyle is much easier than a car free one.
A car filled lifestyle is much easier than a car free one.
That depends on the location. If you live work and play in the same area then a car is a hassle and not needed. I live in Midtown Manhattan and was so happy to get rid of my car. If I live out in the burbs then yes a car is a blessing.
And i compared it to a borough because each New York borough is actually a County.
So im really comparing L.A city to New York Counties,
Instead of L.A County vs other cities
The counties are ceremonial for the most part. I’m pretty sure there was only one other poster in recent times on this board who thought this was a reasonable argument.
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Originally Posted by slo1318
A car filled lifestyle is much easier than a car free one.
I left LA mainly because of that train of thought, so we are not all agreed on this.
That depends on the location. If you live work and play in the same area then a car is a hassle and not needed. I live in Midtown Manhattan and was so happy to get rid of my car. If I live out in the burbs then yes a car is a blessing.
I'm way to impulsive for that. To get to a restaurant across town, head to a beach or venue without having to rely on transit. Weekend trips etc etc etc
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