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The only place the train could go that is worthwhile is to Savannah, Chattanooga, Birmingham or Chicago. It's a little different situation than what North Carolina has.
I'd love to see a HSR connection to cities in Tennessee (and to a SE network via Chattanooga to Atlanta)...but I just don't think the ridership is there right now. I think Chattanooga to Atlanta is a viable option...but Chattanooga to Nashville could prove difficult (and slow) because of Monteagle Mountain.
I think the only way Nashville gets connected to a HSR network is if the feds see a reason to connect Atlanta to Chicago.
Overall, the Tennessee cities are just a little too spread out, especially compared to the NC cities.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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The release California tomorrow. So we can expect to see the following:
- Los Angeles
- San Diego
- San Jose
- San Francisco
- Oakland
- Sacramento
In Other News:
Take this with a grain of salt, these people (whoever is releasing this) haven't been a mile close to being right at all so far. So this is just for an updated release on information that comes out every 3 months (albeit useless information).
- New York MSA: 19,199,668
- Los Angeles MSA: 12,961,505
- Chicago MSA: 9,673,948
- Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 6,712,303
- Houston MSA: 6,108,060
- Philadelphia MSA: 6,018,573
- Atlanta MSA: 5,700,894
- Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: 5,620,115
- Washington DC MSA: 5,602,583
- Boston MSA: 4,638,656
- Phoenix MSA: 4,575,353
- San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,381,119
- Detroit MSA: 4,374,298
- Riverside/San Bernardino MSA: 4,280,997
- Seattle MSA: 3,488,897
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul MSA: 3,326,130
- San Diego MSA: 3,102,292
- Saint Louis MSA: 2,851,331
- Tampa MSA: 2,799,897
- Baltimore MSA: 2,711,322
- Denver MSA: 2,633,261
- Pittsburgh MSA: 2,346,467
- Portland MSA: 2,306,677
- Cincinnati MSA: 2,199,914
- Sacramento MSA: 2,176,758
- Orlando MSA: 2,151,012
- San Antonio MSA: 2,150,918
- Kansas City MSA: 2,112,829
- Cleveland MSA: 2,081,413
- Las Vegas MSA: 1,990,297
- San Jose MSA: 1,877,419
- Columbus MSA: 1,838,545
- Charlotte MSA: 1,837,222
- Austin MSA: 1,805,928
- Indianapolis MSA: 1,785,415
- Nashville MSA: 1,637,305
- Milwaukee MSA: 1,570,491
- Jacksonville MSA: 1,362,214
- Memphis MSA: 1,321,811
- Louisville MSA: 1,277,720
- Oklahoma City MSA: 1,256,804
- Raleigh MSA: 1,200,360
- New Orleans MSA: 1,194,645
- Salt Lake City MSA: 1,164,037
- Buffalo MSA: 1,117,816
- Tucson MSA: 1,050,405
- Tulsa MSA: 946,501
- Honolulu MSA: 913,119
- Albuquerque MSA: 882,805
- Omaha MSA: 866,486
- El Paso MSA: 768,762
My Thoughts:
LOLOLOLOL This is just an agency that has reached a new level of mediocrity, and they just wont stop! Everything they've released so far (accordance with the US Census Releases) has been so wrong.
My Thoughts:
LOLOLOLOL This is just an agency that has reached a new level of mediocrity, and they just wont stop! Everything they've released so far (accordance with the US Census Releases) has been so wrong.
I take most population estimates with a grain of salt, but lets face it, the Census itself is not necessarily accurate itself. It is just an 'official' count. Who knows, the Biz Journals counts could be fairly close to the true number...or you can look at it as the "high" estimate for a city, and the census as a "low" estimate, as the Census seems to be much more likely to under count as over count. Not that it really matters in the end, but how many of the homeless and illegals aren't accurately counted by the Census?
My Thoughts:
LOLOLOLOL This is just an agency that has reached a new level of mediocrity, and they just wont stop! Everything they've released so far (accordance with the US Census Releases) has been so wrong.
some looks right on the money, others are way off.
Its been a year so a number 150K more than the census number for Houston doesn't seem odd (especially since the 2010 number is being challenged). The 400K in the same period for DFW seems more than odd though
In Other News:
Take this with a grain of salt, these people (whoever is releasing this) haven't been a mile close to being right at all so far. So this is just for an updated release on information that comes out every 3 months (albeit useless information).
- Chicago MSA: 9,673,948
My Thoughts:
LOLOLOLOL This is just an agency that has reached a new level of mediocrity, and they just wont stop! Everything they've released so far (accordance with the US Census Releases) has been so wrong.
Yeah, due to the participation of Chicago and the probable lack of caring on the census takers' part, Chicago's population is probably much lower han i should be.
The release California tomorrow. So we can expect to see the following:
- Los Angeles
- San Diego
- San Jose
- San Francisco
- Oakland
- Sacramento
In Other News:
Take this with a grain of salt, these people (whoever is releasing this) haven't been a mile close to being right at all so far. So this is just for an updated release on information that comes out every 3 months (albeit useless information).
- New York MSA: 19,199,668
- Los Angeles MSA: 12,961,505
- Chicago MSA: 9,673,948
- Dallas/Fort Worth MSA: 6,712,303
- Houston MSA: 6,108,060
- Philadelphia MSA: 6,018,573
- Atlanta MSA: 5,700,894
- Miami/Fort Lauderdale MSA: 5,620,115
- Washington DC MSA: 5,602,583
- Boston MSA: 4,638,656
- Phoenix MSA: 4,575,353
- San Francisco/Oakland MSA: 4,381,119
- Detroit MSA: 4,374,298
- Riverside/San Bernardino MSA: 4,280,997
- Seattle MSA: 3,488,897
- Minneapolis/Saint Paul MSA: 3,326,130
- San Diego MSA: 3,102,292
- Saint Louis MSA: 2,851,331
- Tampa MSA: 2,799,897
- Baltimore MSA: 2,711,322
- Denver MSA: 2,633,261
- Pittsburgh MSA: 2,346,467
- Portland MSA: 2,306,677
- Cincinnati MSA: 2,199,914
- Sacramento MSA: 2,176,758
- Orlando MSA: 2,151,012
- San Antonio MSA: 2,150,918
- Kansas City MSA: 2,112,829
- Cleveland MSA: 2,081,413
- Las Vegas MSA: 1,990,297
- San Jose MSA: 1,877,419
- Columbus MSA: 1,838,545
- Charlotte MSA: 1,837,222
- Austin MSA: 1,805,928
- Indianapolis MSA: 1,785,415
- Nashville MSA: 1,637,305
- Milwaukee MSA: 1,570,491
- Jacksonville MSA: 1,362,214
- Memphis MSA: 1,321,811
- Louisville MSA: 1,277,720
- Oklahoma City MSA: 1,256,804
- Raleigh MSA: 1,200,360
- New Orleans MSA: 1,194,645
- Salt Lake City MSA: 1,164,037
- Buffalo MSA: 1,117,816
- Tucson MSA: 1,050,405
- Tulsa MSA: 946,501
- Honolulu MSA: 913,119
- Albuquerque MSA: 882,805
- Omaha MSA: 866,486
- El Paso MSA: 768,762
My Thoughts:
LOLOLOLOL This is just an agency that has reached a new level of mediocrity, and they just wont stop! Everything they've released so far (accordance with the US Census Releases) has been so wrong.
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by durf
Philadelphia-1,295,000 to 1,350,000.
Yeah California today. Today they will let us know if they're releasing anything on Wednesday, in which I suspect they will because they planned to release a full 7 states this week (their most ever for a week so far).
By the way, Philadelphia had challenged the US Census like a year ago when they were displaying the population estimates to be low, and Philadelphia won the case and gained an additional 100,000 people which put them into the 1.5 Millions range. Is it possible for the official numbers to overwrite very recent challenges and report more or less (by an exceptional margin)?
While we're on the subject: California's results will be boring, I don't think there's going to be any drastic differences between their US Census Estimates from 2009 going on in to their 2010 Official US Census results.
Last edited by DANNYY; 03-08-2011 at 01:18 AM..
Reason: Tweak.
Everybody keeps bitching about how "wrong" the official census numbers are, but did it ever occur to any of these people that the numbers between 2001 and 2009 were nothing more than estimates? That's right, estimates. They were estimated. Get it? The methodology in the estimations was crude, and it didn't require nearly as much effort as the more thorough, official decennial census. And yeah, I know the official census numbers aren't perfect either, but I believe they're closer to the truth than the estimates. Crying about your favorite state/city failing to match the estimates is tantamount to blaming the referees when your favorite sports team loses a game. Get over it.
By the way, I predict that if Pittsburgh exceeds its estimates, then all the howling about how wrong the official numbers are will turn into full-blown screaming and wailing, with Bill Steigerwald leading the shrill chorus. And if Philadelphia outgrows Dallas (cities proper), then expect a Kotkinniption.
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