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View Poll Results: Toronto vs Boston
Toronto 112 52.83%
Boston 100 47.17%
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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School systems (K-12) - Boston. Another one that is not even close. Massachusetts and the Greater Boston area students placed 3rd in the world after Singapore and Taiwan in the PISA testing overall. Canada as a nation (Massachusetts competed on their own separate from the USA) scored in the Top 10.
Why are you comparing Canada as a whole to Massachusetts itself? If you're going to use Canada, you must use the United States as a whole.

Anyways, the city of Boston's public schools suck, as do the inner-city schools in all major American cities. Everybody knows this. This is why Americans move to the suburbs when they have kids (the ones who can afford to anyways). Either that or they send their kids to private schools. American public schools are notoriously bad, especially in the major cities. This has been proven time and time and time again with standardized testing results compared to other countries.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:05 PM
 
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- Safety - Toronto. It is actually very close though, both are extremely safe big cities with no major ghetto's on the scale of many cities. So far this year though murders are significantly higher in Toronto, but I will base this on last years statistics and go with Toronto being safer.
Last I checked Toronto only had 14 murders this year for 2.6 million people. Boston only has a little over 600,000 people, so if Boston has had more than 3 murders, than Boston's per capita count is higher than Toronto's.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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Last I checked Toronto only had 14 murders this year for 2.6 million people. Boston only has a little over 600,000 people, so if Boston has had more than 3 murders, than Boston's per capita count is higher than Toronto's.
Boston has had 5 so far this year.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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Really? I thought Boston averaged like 60+ per year.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:10 PM
 
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It's only March. There were 72 last year. 50 in '09.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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That's pretty terrifying that Boston had 72 murders last year. Toronto only had 60 with 4 times the population of Boston. Yikes!
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Why are you comparing Canada as a whole to Massachusetts itself? If you're going to use Canada, you must use the United States as a whole.

Anyways, the city of Boston's public schools suck, as do the inner-city schools in all major American cities. Everybody knows this. This is why Americans move to the suburbs when they have kids (the ones who can afford to anyways). Either that or they send their kids to private schools. American public schools are notoriously bad, especially in the major cities. This has been proven time and time and time again with standardized testing results compared to other countries.
You're crazy.

Boston's public schools definitely do not suck. There are certainly schools which need help, but there are some great schools too. In 2007, Boston Latin was named one of the 20 best high schools in the country.

He mentioned Massachusetts schools because they are usually ranked as the best in the country. The entire Eastern half of Massachusetts is part of Greater Boston.

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Last I checked Toronto only had 14 murders this year for 2.6 million people. Boston only has a little over 600,000 people, so if Boston has had more than 3 murders, than Boston's per capita count is higher than Toronto's.
Toronto is certainly safer than Boston, but Boston is among the safest American cities...there was a high amount of murders in Boston city proper, but the metro area is extremely safe.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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I'm crazy? I'm not the one comparing Boston's schools with all of Canada's. If you want to compare, compare Boston's with Toronto's, not with all of Canada's.
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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I'm crazy? I'm not the one comparing Boston's schools with all of Canada's. If you want to compare, compare Boston's with Toronto's, not with all of Canada's.
I said you were crazy because you claimed Boston's public schools suck.

P.S. Despite being "notoriously bad", United States schools score higher than average. In fact it ranks higher than the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, Ireland...

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Old 03-29-2011, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA & Beirut, Lebanon
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Why are you comparing Canada as a whole to Massachusetts itself? If you're going to use Canada, you must use the United States as a whole.

Anyways, the city of Boston's public schools suck, as do the inner-city schools in all major American cities. Everybody knows this. This is why Americans move to the suburbs when they have kids (the ones who can afford to anyways). Either that or they send their kids to private schools. American public schools are notoriously bad, especially in the major cities. This has been proven time and time and time again with standardized testing results compared to other countries.
Boston Latin and all the exam schools are top notch, you also have to factor in that you have schools in Cambridge, Brookline, etc...in the metro area. And living in those areas in not moving to "The Burbs". With the amount of wealth in the Boston area and high educated population, do you honestly think parents would accept sup par schools?

Anyways, if Toronto competed on its own would it score on par with Singapore and Hong Kong? According to the Fraser Institute Toronto schools are middle of the road in Canada.
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