Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
answer: nyc very is very influential (very rich), philadelphia is not (it's rather poor)...which is why places physically closer to philadelphia aren't closer to philadelphia at all statistically, statistically speaking.
There are 3200 counties in the usa. 10 of those counties make up metro Philadelphia. 7 of those 10 are top 100 wealthiest counties in the USA.
Let me repeat 7 of Philadlephia's 10 metro counties are top 1 % in national wealth so NO the Philadelphia region is not rather poor.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noah5
part of the why these counties are very wealthy is obviously due to the influence of new york city. ask yourself, why are there more commuters to new york city from mercer or wherever when philadelphia is (allegedly) closer? why?
The counties in Central Jersey are awash in the pharmacuetical industry, thats where they draw their wealth from. Just like the 4 PA suburban counties that make up the crux of metro Philly. Its organic growth. Hunterdon,Mercer, Sussex, Warren have virtually nothing to do with NYC but you wouldnt know that because you live 3000 miles away and are clueless to the situation.
These are not bankers from Hunterdon NJ(pa.border) that are commuting 1 1/2 hours to Manhattan .The populace that make up Hunterdon Co(3rd wealthiest county in USA) are people working at GSK,Merck,Pfizer,Teva,Wyeth,Cephalon which are located in central Jersey and SE Pennsylvania.
There are 3200 counties in the usa. 10 of those counties make up metro Philadelphia. 7 of those 10 are top 100 wealthiest counties in the USA.
Let me repeat 7 of Philadlephia's 10 metro counties are top 1 % in national wealth so NO the Philadelphia region is not rather poor.
The counties in Central Jersey are awash in the pharmacuetical industry, thats where they draw their wealth from. Just like the 4 PA suburban counties that make up metro Philly. Its organic growth. Hunterdon,Mercer, Sussex, Warren have virtually nothing to do with NYC but you wouldnt know that because you live 3000 miles away and are clueless to the situation.
take it up with the census bureau, not me. according to the us government, they absolutely do have something to do with new york. after all, they're part of the new york metro.
The census is merely a gathering of statistical data which can be manipulated by local + state govt which is imho the case with Central Jersey.
NJ state officials in central Jersey get a higher cost of living allowance by being affiliated with NYC and North Jersey. Thats probably the
main reason Mercer and Hunterdon are in NYC sphere.
But that doest change the fact that Trenton has an urban area of 360,000 people and is 15 miles from NE Philadlephia and 70 miles from Manhattan.Trenton is literally 50 feet from Morrisville(Bucks County) PA. Both areas have density populations of over 10,000 ppsq.mi..
Trenton is on your right, Delaware River, Morrisville Pa on the left. Morrisville is part of Lower Bucks County Pa which is a dense corridor that connects Philadelphia + Trenton.(15 miles wide)
Its egregious that mercer County is not part of metro Philly.Inconceiveable really.
Can clearly see the continuation of Philadelphia/Bucks PA/Mercer NJ/Hunterdon NJ. Now central jersey(New Brunswick) may be filling in from growth from NYC but Trentons urban area has always been affiliated with Philadelphia. Growth moved from Philly to Trenton. No way should NYC be given credit for it.
Oh yeah. Those 3 clusters to the NW of Philly? Thats Allentown,Reading and Lancaster. 2 M people. Any other city in the USA and those micro regions are at least added to the CMSA , All but Philadelphia.
To the SE is Atlantic City/Ocean City/Cape May. The dark circle that seperates it from Philly is the Pine Barrens. The Pine Barrens are slightly wider than the SF Bay. The SF Bay(natural spatial seperator) somehow is the glue that holds the Bay Area together but the Pine Barrens(Natural spatial seperator) are what prevents AC + Ocean City from being included in metro Philly??????
Can clearly see the continuation of Philadelphia/Bucks PA/Mercer NJ/Hunterdon NJ. Now central jersey(New Brunswick) may be filling in from growth from NYC but Trentons urban area has always been affiliated with Philadelphia. Growth moved from Philly to Trenton. No way should NYC be given credit for it.
This is a side note, but is there extensive growth towards Boston?
I attend Princeton so don't even start! Princeton is part of the NYC Metropolitan area and I live right near Princeton and Midtown Manhatttan is closer than Ghetto City Philadelphia.
LOL...have you even graduated from the "special trailer" in grade school? For the benefit of your claimed alma mater please don't ever mention to anyone where you attended college.
OK thanks for lumping me in there. I doubted this thread could be anything but an outlet for passive-aggressive types, considering the broad nature of the topic and how these topics have been discussed ad nauseum in this forum, with similar results. It's an open invite to argue.
The thing about the anti-Philly comments is that they sound so much like a bigot talking, full of sweeping generalizations and a total denial of reality, all the while insisting that some higher source makes them right. I see no reason to let it stand.
By making false arguments and then ignoring simple facts (train from Philly to Princeton = 34 minutes! noah5 says it takes 2 hours, 34 minutes!) noah5 is acting in bad faith, not enough to flag but enough to succeed in trolling, it would be nice to have more support.
It would have been so easy to get past that initial Philly snub, but instead of the truth being the last word, the liars declared victory and tried to move on. That's not the world I'm going to live in. Philly is one city that's obsessed with freedom and the truth... so much so, we wrote the book on it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayp1188
This thread could have been interesting and informative, but S.D. Calif, noah5, jsupak, and Dub King have turned this into a thread full of trolling, ignorance, and stupidity. This thread should be closed.
Last edited by Dub King; 08-20-2011 at 06:21 AM..
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
