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That may be the case, also dunno if anyone uses CL here job listings anymore.
It is probably because the Minneapolis economy has kicked back into gear, unemployment has dropped by 1% in the last two months and there are a ton of places opening up.
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Originally Posted by kidphilly
Though this is one area I also feel that Philly significantly bests MSP, the restaurant scene here has grown in huge ways over the last 20 years.
This has happened in every city in the US. American cuisine is in its golden age. Minneapolis also has a very good dining scene.
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It is probably because the Minneapolis economy has kicked back into gear, unemployment has dropped by 1% in the last two months and there are a ton of places opening up.
This has happened in every city in the US. American cuisine is in its golden age. Minneapolis also has a very good dining scene.
Agree on the latter and the Center City dinning weathered the economy very well. Probably 8 or so significant openings in the last two months alone in the greater CC area. But do think unemployment is a little better in MSP.
If you are a foodie though highly recommend checking out Philly. To me these days only truly bested by NYC/Chicago/SF in the US. Great energy and vibe plus the best collection of BYOs in the country and a very good gastro pub scene. Being able to walk to more than 200 restaurants in about ten minutes makes picking the new place to go difficult. I love to eat and get tot travel and eat out quite a bit and am really proud to see what has taken place in th Philly scene of late
I work as a chef. Out of curiosity I looked at the restaurant/hospitality postings for the two cities on Craigslist. Minneapolis actually has significantly more job openings than Philly despite being a smaller metro.
Minneapolis recruits chefs for its culinary scene through Craigslist?
Do you work in the restaurant business in Philedelphia? Do you know for a fact that restaurants in Philly don't?
What is wrong with Craigslist? It is cheap and functional. Most independent restaurants operate on a shoestring so cheap and functional is good. Some places in Minneapolis use recruiters for chef and GM positions but recruiters usually charge the restaurant $3,000 to $10,000 to fill a vacancy. If you do a half a million in sales at a 6% profit margin you can't afford to pay that.
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There's another longstanding thread that asks reader about " most ghetto-like appearance", and Philly is very prominently mentioned MANY times. Take the hint--not everyone thinks the way you do about your city. Boston's not my ideal place, and it has several obvious flaws, but at least its neighborhoods are not crumbling down..
Yes, because clearly city-data is the world's most objective source and provides endless thought-provoking analysis. I'd even give Travel + Leisure more credibility than this forum, and that's saying something.
You're off-base here. Not one person has denied that Philly has its fair share of decrepit neighborhoods. In terms of proportion of livable neighborhoods, I think any reasonable person would agree that MSP wins.
However, that is only one aspect of an assessment. I will agree that Philly is a pretty bi-polar city in that its best neighborhoods are among the best urban neighborhoods in the country, and its poor neighborhoods are abysmal -- but it also has a very large amount of respectable and stable middle-class neighborhoods. That you repeatedly overlook that fact demonstrates your underlying lack of knowledge of the city.
You'd also be delusional to not consider the size differential between both cities -- they're metro areas are MILLIONS apart. It is, indeed, an apples-oranges comparison.
Yes, because clearly city-data is the world's most objective source and provides endless thought-provoking analysis. I'd even give Travel + Leisure more credibility than this forum, and that's saying something.
You're off-base here. Not one person has denied that Philly has its fair share of decrepit neighborhoods. In terms of proportion of livable neighborhoods, I think any reasonable person would agree that MSP wins.
However, that is only one aspect of an assessment. I will agree that Philly is a pretty bi-polar city in that its best neighborhoods are among the best urban neighborhoods in the country, and its poor neighborhoods are abysmal -- but it also has a very large amount of respectable and stable middle-class neighborhoods. That you repeatedly overlook that fact demonstrates your underlying lack of knowledge of the city.
You'd also be delusional to not consider the size differential between both cities -- they're metro areas are MILLIONS apart. It is, indeed, an apples-oranges comparison.
Yes, City-Data is fascinating....some of the time.
What I find "delusional" is a previous poster who claimed that "only 5%" of the city is impoverished, which is downright laughable. Clearly, he must view his city with rose-colored glasses...or maybe he REALLY thinks that a neighborhood with boarded-up windows and doors is "desirable". When the bar is set so low, then you're bound to get some erroneous opinions..
If you like Philly, fine..more for you. If I'm down in the mid-Atlantic, I'd rather stop short and visit NYC, or just continue on to DC ( I'd skip Baltimore, too, having been there a number of times). Philly isn't the "be-all and end-all" of everything...even if its boosters think that it is.
What I find "delusional" is a previous poster who claimed that "only 5%" of the city is impoverished, which is downright laughable. Clearly, he must view his city with rose-colored glasses...or maybe he REALLY thinks that a neighborhood with boarded-up windows and doors is "desirable". When the bar is set so low, then you're bound to get some erroneous opinions..
If I'm down in the mid-Atlantic, I'd rather stop short and visit NYC, or just continue on to DC ( I'd skip Baltimore, too, having been there a number of times). Philly isn't the "be-all and end-all" of everything...even if its boosters think that it is.
I can't speak to the claims of other people, although I think the claims of the 5% impoverished speaks to land area of the metro area, not population.
This has nothing to do with "boosterism." I only contribute to these inane city vs. city threads to add facts to otherwise nonsensical debates when it comes to areas I'm familiar with. Philadelphia happens to be one of those places.
No one is going to get their feelings hurt if you're not a fan of Philly, and you've made it abundantly clear that you aren't. What I -- and others, I'm sure -- get perturbed about is exaggeration and half-truths. Rectifying crude lies about a place being "a cesspool" or being "one giant ghetto" shouldn't exactly be considered "boosterism."
If you like Philly, fine..more for you. If I'm down in the mid-Atlantic, I'd rather stop short and visit NYC, or just continue on to DC
LOL - no surprise based on posting history. Each part for the country has its fans and those who disfavor it - be it Philly, Minneapolis, Mass or VT. You don't like Philly - we get it. Glad you've found cities in the area to your liking.
LOL - no surprise based on posting history. Each part for the country has its fans and those who disfavor it - be it Philly, Minneapolis, Mass or VT. You don't like Philly - we get it. Glad you've found cities in the area to your liking.
I never said that I'd NEVER revisit Philly; with limitations of time/money, one has to pick and choose, and I'd rather visit Chicago, NYC, Madison WI, LA etc and other old stomping grounds, before setting foot again in the City of Brotherly Love. I get quite a bit of the colonial vibe just going about a normal day right here in Cambridge/Boston, esp when walking through Harvard Yard, which has basically become just a shortcut, more than anything else...
I never said that I'd NEVER revisit Philly; with limitations of time/money, one has to pick and choose, and I'd rather visit Chicago, NYC, Madison WI, LA etc and other old stomping grounds, before setting foot again in the City of Brotherly Love.
Nor did I infer you said so.
I hope you continue to visit cities of greater interest to you and enjoy your visits to them.
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