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I don't believe the poster suggested that other cities don't have rail-linked suburban office hubs.
What are the ones in Philly for example? Do they match up to what's being discussed?
The suburbs of Philly do not have rail-linked office hubs as built up as Bethesda or Rossyln, but there are definite concentrations of office space/employment in the area with rail access. Places like Bala Cynwyd, Conshohocken, Wayne/Radnor, Malvern and Willow Grove come to mind.
I don't believe the poster suggested that other cities don't have rail-linked suburban office hubs.
What are the ones in Philly for example? Do they match up to what's being discussed? This is a serious question, as I'm only familiar with the downtown and some suburbs like KoP.
KOP is not well linked at all which is a shame, Philly does have some though has failed to capitalize on relative to especially DC
It's amazing that D.C. has downtown extensions like Rosslyn-Ballston in Arlington with 28 million square feet of office space that is around the same size or bigger than some cities like Denver and Baltimore's downtown's. Crystal City which is another extension of downtown DC has over 11 million sq. feet of office space.
I don't know if this is really a "versus" thing in itself, but it could spawn some good "versus" discussion. This is in millions of square feet of office space.
Midtown Manhattan - 200.2
Washington D.C. - 131.7
Chicago - 131.5
Toronto - 88.7
Downtown Manhattan - 87.3
San Francisco - 83.2
Midtown South Manhattan - 71.8
Boston - 59.2
Atlanta - 56.9
Seattle - 52.5
Montreal - 49.4
Philadelphia - 41.5
And just for laughs and giggles, since I've noticed there are a couple of big downtown San Jose boosters on this forum who shall go unnamed, let's look at downtown San Jose's office inventory:
San Jose - 7.5
You are going to have to come up with a link for this information ASAP.
Maybe this was posted before but as to the question about government buildings being included in D.C. office space numbers... simply put it goes like this,
Government OWNED office buildings are not included (like the FDA complex, some National Institutes of Health buildings in Maryland and the Pentagon in Va or military bases)
Government LEASED space, built by and owned by a developer where the GSA (General Services Admin: the real estate arm of the federal government) simply leases space and pays per square foot IS COUNTED.
There are plenty of Government owned office buildings not counted especially by the mall.
You know what is crazy. D.C.'s biggest economy boom was September 11th. An entire new government department was made out of those airplanes. The Department of Home Land Security. The wars also lead to major defense spending for Afghanistan and Iraq. D.C. always booms during war time and this is no different. The major difference between these 21st century wars and the WWII wars is D.C. has used this opportunity to diversify. We have major tech start ups. We have increased Life Sciences. We have major Financial sector investment. This city is no longer a government town and the city is not going to look back. D.C. will not slow down. The suburbs will slow down which is a good thing in my opinion. People need to move into the urban cores and they will continue to do that. I think we argue two different things. I only care and want the core population to continue to rise. I don't really care about the metro area. You have got to see that in all my posts. D.C., Maryland, and Virginia compete with each other. When one adds something, it takes from the other. We have a very unique relationship which doesn't exist anywhere else in the country. As long as D.C. grows, I don't care what happens to the rest of the metro area.
Then why do you call urself MDallstar. The D.C. city proper of course will get the biggest blow if government spending slows as well as northern Virgina which are both highly dependent on government defense contractors.
Maryland on the other hand (the red headed step child of the region led by a submissive government body) is far less dependent on the fed government thanks to its private employers that have very good management. The Biotechnology industry for example is entirely in Maryland 99% of it. The hotel industry, the financial industry, the real estate industry, and now the Media industries strongest arm is there. It is far less dependent on defense unlike Virginia. The funny thing is all those strong industries in Maryland are efforts from the past, in the 70s and 80s from a conservative business friendly government that no longer exists.
It's amazing that D.C. has downtown extensions like Rosslyn-Ballston in Arlington with 28 million square feet of office space that is around the same size or bigger than some cities like Denver and Baltimore's downtown's. Crystal City which is another extension of downtown DC has over 11 million sq. feet of office space.
Um Rosslyn-Ballston is only like 22 million square feet. Which is about the same as downtown Bethesda/Chevy Chase and downtown Silver Spring combined
I just find it odd why do you keep mentioning Virginia places like the end all be all yet you call yourself MDallstar. Did you know that downtown Silver Spring has a larger company than the top three largest in Arlington combined?
Downtown Silver Spring alone has more office space than Ballston and then some.
Bethesda/Chevy Chase are the wealthiest areas in the region bar none and also the most educated in the region and would take out almost half of the Ballston Rosslyn and are bigger than crystal city.
It's also how you draw boundaries too. the I-270 corridor from North Bethesda through Rockville has more office space than Tysons Corner.
Heck Perimeter area in Atlanta has more office space than Tysons Corner too and is already served by heavy rail transit. But unlike the Washington post the Atlanta Journal Constitution isn't bragging about it with some erroneous statement about it being "the twelfth largest business district in the country "
Also Baltimore's metro is no slouch at over 95 million square feet which outdoes the Maryland/D.C. side. BWI Marshall airport has one the largest airport business districts in the country and is neck and neck with Dulles airport.
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