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Indy, its nice. I wouldnt live in St. Louis or Kansas City
Kansas City has nearly the EXACT urban housing stock of Indianapolis, but with stronger urban commercial districts throughout the city, bigger apartment districts, way more interesting topography, a more progressive, artsy vibe, and a more interesting history being on the major river and rail lines west. There is more diversity in the suburban housing stock than Indy, too, with the Kansas side having a kind of southwest-light vibe. Not my cup of tea but whatever. Kansas City is kind of a more urban and west coast facing version of Indy, that's sunnier. I live exactly between both cities and well, visit Kansas City a hell of a lot more than Indy.
St. Louis has actual, real 19th century rowhouses in good neighborhoods, but I understand not everyone is into that.
Kansas City and Indianapolis are somewhat similar, with the edge to Kansas City, which is artsier and a little more urban with the exception of having a downtown that isn't as put together (yet) as Indy (which has a "put together" downtown but it's not as interesting). However, Indianapolis is convenient to Chicago and Lake Michigan and a huge chunk of the midwest and has better local politics.
Omaha is a smaller version of Kansas City, with some arts-y-ness.
St. Louis is the most interesting and urban and random and certainly has the oldest funkiest ambiance at it's best, but with a little more baggage than the rest. The art scene is improving and it's certainly edgier than any of the others.
The "problem" with Indy is that it's so close to Cincinnati or Chicago. I mean I'd rather live in one of those two.
Omaha has sort of an under-rated urban core size and good definable local culture. I'd actually rather live there than Indianapolis, which is one of the most over-rated cities in the midwest.
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My thoughts exactly, although I would probably choose Indy over Omaha just because it's larger and has more to do and is closer to other large cities.
Indy is incredibly overrated when it comes to its urban built environment. It has a nice lively downtown, but I really do think KC is pretty far ahead of Indy when it comes to big city feel and amenities. It just has a pretty good edge over Indy when it comes to things to do and culture, arts etc. KC has some incredible urban districts outside of downtown that just don't exisit in Indy.
The same can be said about St Louis when compared to KC. While KC is closing the gap somewhat, St Louis just has a much larger and more established built environment and the metro is more continuously urbananized than metro KC, making it feel like a bigger city and metro. St Louis also has a much more vibrant urban university scene than KC, something I think KC really lacks.
Omaha really is a small version of KCMO with a really nice dense urban linear core and some nice continuous density all the way into the western suburbs. But at under 1 million people, the city is just way too small to have the amenities I prefer in a city. Omaha's urban core can give Indy a run for its money though and they have a nice river walk, one of the best zoos in the nation, a top arena and performing arts center and a great urban university. I still can't believe the AAA baseball team in Omaha is not playing downtown though and Omaha should probably have an NHL team.
Omaha really is a small version of KCMO with a really nice dense urban linear core and some nice continuous density all the way into the western suburbs. But at under 1 million people, the city is just way too small to have the amenities I prefer in a city. Omaha's urban core can give Indy a run for its money though and they have a nice river walk, one of the best zoos in the nation, a top arena and performing arts center and a great urban university. I still can't believe the AAA baseball team in Omaha is not playing downtown though and Omaha should probably have an NHL team.
Don't even get me started on the AAA issue! Also the only major league sport I can see Omaha getting at this point is MLS, unless something drastically changes in the big four. I am sure KC is in line for NHL before Omaha anyways.
Don't even get me started on the AAA issue! Also the only major league sport I can see Omaha getting at this point is MLS, unless something drastically changes in the big four. I am sure KC is in line for NHL before Omaha anyways.
The CWS stadium is too big for their needs. Hell, Rosenblatt was too big. Seems like they are doing well in their own stadium. As for NHL, it will never happen. Omaha is not a major league sports town and never will be. Personally, I'm happy with the two levels of hockey they have.
...and being called a Hoosier in St. Louis is a insult.
I couldn't live in any of those cities.
Hence why alot of people are saying they couldnt live in St Louis
I dont blame them
Also Indianapolis will be the FIRST Northern City to be put on the Super Bowl host rotation list. Our city did such a great job there is calls for another bid later this decade. Detroit had to build 2 stadiums to get 2 SBs. Indy only had to build Lucas Oil and cause its such a nice facility the NFL is coming back.
No other City in the Midwest/North can say that. Minneapolis/Detroit/Indianapolis are the only 3 northern cities to host a Super Bowl. New York City gets a one time deal due to the NFL being HQed there.
Hence why alot of people are saying they couldnt live in St Louis
I dont blame them
Also Indianapolis will be the FIRST Northern City to be put on the Super Bowl host rotation list. Our city did such a great job there is calls for another bid later this decade. Detroit had to build 2 stadiums to get 2 SBs. Indy only had to build Lucas Oil and cause its such a nice facility the NFL is coming back.
No other City in the Midwest/North can say that. Minneapolis/Detroit/Indianapolis are the only 3 northern cities to host a Super Bowl. New York City gets a one time deal due to the NFL being HQed there.
In the meantime, they still can't get the College World Series away from Omaha.
I just got back from a trip to Indy, and I'd have to say Indy would probably be on the top of my list. The city really impressed me. It was clean, active and had a great youthful vibe mixed with older elements like monuments, old store fronts and brick roads. I never thought of Indy as being overrated. I thought it was more underrated because it has to shed an image it still holds from its pre-revitalization when Vonnegut described it as a place to shoot pigeons. Not to mention monikers it's been given like Naptown and India-no-place. It don't think it is exactly a poll sweeper around here either, is it?
I thought it stood well against KC, but then again I went to Indy not weighting it against elements that KC has or even that KC lacks. It made for a nice trip. The best part had to be when they reopened catacombs beneath the city for the first time in over 100 years below the City Market. Any Hoosiers go to that?
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