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Old 04-28-2019, 06:41 AM
 
Location: DM[V] - Northern Virginia
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I think that what this argument turns on is the spacing between buildings and their siting as well as their size.

DC has many blocks of solid row houses, but by and large they don't look like the Baltimore blocks that were posted here; most of the rowhouses have front yards and the streets are lined with trees.
I think it's really good that many of DC's rowhouse blocks have front yards with streets that are lined with trees. Seems pretty hospitable and attractive! I don't think it takes away from the urban experience to have a setback from the street to accommodate some yard space and trees.

DC rowhouse architecture is pretty diverse and the siting of buildings on blocks is pretty diverse as well. While DC has many rowhouse blocks with yards and trees like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9371...7i16384!8i8192

DC also has many blocks of row houses with no front yards and no setback like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9148...7i16384!8i8192

DC also has its side streets that are pretty tight and not wide like the main streets, especially outside of downtown, like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9307...7i16384!8i8192

It is really varied when you get down to it.

I think we all can spend months going through Google Streetview doing comparisons.

I spend quite a bit of time in Baltimore and Philly. Both places have great rowhouse architecture and architecture in general that's very diverse and varied in the way it sits on blocks in different sections of those cities.

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Old 04-28-2019, 10:16 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I think it's really good that many of DC's rowhouse blocks have front yards with streets that are lined with trees. Seems pretty hospitable and attractive! I don't think it takes away from the urban experience to have a setback from the street to accommodate some yard space and trees.

DC rowhouse architecture is pretty diverse and the siting of buildings on blocks is pretty diverse as well. While DC has many rowhouse blocks with yards and trees like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9371...7i16384!8i8192

DC also has many blocks of row houses with no front yards and no setback like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9148...7i16384!8i8192

DC also has its side streets that are pretty tight and not wide like the main streets, especially outside of downtown, like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9307...7i16384!8i8192

It is really varied when you get down to it.

I think we all can spend months going through Google Streetview doing comparisons.

I spend quite a bit of time in Baltimore and Philly. Both places have great rowhouse architecture and architecture in general that's very diverse and varied in the way it sits on blocks in different sections of those cities.
DC has a Chicago/NYC/Richmond Hybrid looking thing going on there. I don't know how it looked before it gentrified, but it got it right this time around.
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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I think it's really good that many of DC's rowhouse blocks have front yards with streets that are lined with trees. Seems pretty hospitable and attractive! I don't think it takes away from the urban experience to have a setback from the street to accommodate some yard space and trees.
I agree with you. I even devoted one of my monthly columns in the Phillymag print edition to a city-sponsored program that's trying to do something about our lack of greenery:

The Greener Case for More Trees in Philly | Philadelphia Magazine

And I note that your sample DC block of rowhouses with no yards nonetheless has greenery in the form of street trees. Here in Philly, you find that mainly in Center City, Spring Garden, Fairmount and parts of Graduate Hospital. Elsewhere, especially in South, West and North Central Philadelphia, the rowhouse blocks with no front yards also have no trees.

You won't find a street that looks like the 1400 block of Park Rd NW anywhere in Philadelphia. Nor do I think you'll find one in Baltimore, at least not yet.

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I spend quite a bit of time in Baltimore and Philly. Both places have great rowhouse architecture and architecture in general that's very diverse and varied in the way it sits on blocks in different sections of those cities.
Also agreed. But it's worth noting that rowhouses dominate Philadelphia's housing stock in a way they do in no other American city - they account for about 60 percent of the total.

I think the only other US city where they account for even half the total is Baltimore.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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I agree with you. I even devoted one of my monthly columns in the Phillymag print edition to a city-sponsored program that's trying to do something about our lack of greenery:

The Greener Case for More Trees in Philly | Philadelphia Magazine

And I note that your sample DC block of rowhouses with no yards nonetheless has greenery in the form of street trees. Here in Philly, you find that mainly in Center City, Spring Garden, Fairmount and parts of Graduate Hospital. Elsewhere, especially in South, West and North Central Philadelphia, the rowhouse blocks with no front yards also have no trees.

You won't find a street that looks like the 1400 block of Park Rd NW anywhere in Philadelphia. Nor do I think you'll find one in Baltimore, at least not yet.



Also agreed. But it's worth noting that rowhouses dominate Philadelphia's housing stock in a way they do in no other American city - they account for about 60 percent of the total.

I think the only other US city where they account for even half the total is Baltimore.
Baltimore and Philly are the only 2 major cities which are majority rowhouses.
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Old 04-28-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: DM[V] - Northern Virginia
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DC has a Chicago/NYC/Richmond Hybrid looking thing going on there. I don't know how it looked before it gentrified, but it got it right this time around.
That is a good way to look at it. I agree. DC has similar styles to Chicago/NYC/Richmond.
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Old 04-28-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: DM[V] - Northern Virginia
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I agree with you. I even devoted one of my monthly columns in the Phillymag print edition to a city-sponsored program that's trying to do something about our lack of greenery:

The Greener Case for More Trees in Philly | Philadelphia Magazine

And I note that your sample DC block of rowhouses with no yards nonetheless has greenery in the form of street trees. Here in Philly, you find that mainly in Center City, Spring Garden, Fairmount and parts of Graduate Hospital. Elsewhere, especially in South, West and North Central Philadelphia, the rowhouse blocks with no front yards also have no trees.

You won't find a street that looks like the 1400 block of Park Rd NW anywhere in Philadelphia. Nor do I think you'll find one in Baltimore, at least not yet.



Also agreed. But it's worth noting that rowhouses dominate Philadelphia's housing stock in a way they do in no other American city - they account for about 60 percent of the total.

I think the only other US city where they account for even half the total is Baltimore.
Hey, I read your article. I hope the TreePhilly initiative is able to increase Philly's tree canopy. Thanks for sharing that.
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