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View Poll Results: Which city on the West Coast has the strongest Black presence
Los Angeles 83 24.78%
Oakland 220 65.67%
Seattle 6 1.79%
Phoenix 4 1.19%
Las Vegas 7 2.09%
Sacramento 2 0.60%
Richmond, CA 5 1.49%
Vallejo 5 1.49%
Riverside 1 0.30%
San Diego 2 0.60%
Voters: 335. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yeah, but L.A. metro has 1.2 million blacks and it's 7 percent black. The Bay Area has 471,000 blacks and it's 6.5 percent black. I don't see any getting around that fact.
Getting around half a percentage point at CSA level? Its quite easy to get around that. LMAO.

And btw, here is the latest census bureau data for CSA, MSA and Metro Divisions(MD):

2011 Census Bureau Estimates:

CSA
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside 6.4%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 6.1%

MSA
San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont MSA 7.9%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana MSA 6.5%

Metro Division
Oakland-Fremont-Hayward 10.7%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale MD 8.0%
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: The Bay
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Well, that's indisputable. But as far as black "presence" is concerned, I think LA edges the Bay Area out, and that's supported by statistics as well as anecdotal evidence. You never really hear people cry "There's no black people in LA!" even though it's obviously hyperbole when they make a similar claim about the Bay Area.

You'll hear them crying that soon enough... LA is becoming less black by the hour. The same is true of Oakland unfortunately.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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You'll hear them crying that soon enough... LA is becoming less black by the hour. The same is true of Oakland unfortunately.
Bingo. LA's AA population is going quick. I hear things with the Mexican Mafia in particular are pretty bad out there.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Bingo. LA's AA population is going quick. I hear things with the Mexican Mafia in particular are pretty bad out there.
Not to mention Black Flight to the South doesn't help much either in stabilizing the AA population in the LA area.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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When we combine those who report to being Black 'alone' and those who report to being Black combined with another race, the Bay Area CSA closes the gap down to 2 tenths of a percentage point with the Southland.

The SF MSA rises to near double digits and the proportion of Blacks in the Oakland Metro Division which is Alameda and Contra Costa Counties rises to over 12%

Black Alone or Combined With Another Race, 2011 US Census Bureau Estimates
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside CSA 1,392,158 7.6%
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA 564,799 7.4%

San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont MSA 413,263 9.4%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana MSA 999,267 7.7%

Oakland-Fremont-Hayward MD 321,095 12.3%
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale MD 932,066 9.4%
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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According to the Census the LA Metro has 895,931 blacks or roughly 900,000. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that the Bay Area has a stronger black presence than LA... on the metro level, it doesn't. The East Bay however does; all of the East Bay counties are more than 7% black. The North Bay that borders the East Bay also has a significant black population; Solano County (Fairfield, Suisun City, Vallejo, etc.) is 14.7% black. All this is to say that blacks are very statistically significant and otherwise on the Oakland side of the Bay.
But is that really apples to apples? I mean, you could simply ignore the non-black areas of L.A. and say, "The ______ area of Los Angeles has a stronger black presence than ______." I could cut out a section of Brooklyn that has a larger black population than the entire city of Atlanta. But that doesn't seem like a straight up comparison to me. Does it seem fair to you?
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Not to mention Black Flight to the South doesn't help much either in stabilizing the AA population in the LA area.
There's also a lot of black flight from New York.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The thing about LA as I walk down Crenshaw is the black middle class neighborhoods are strong as ever and are not changing anytime soon. Many of these middle class hoods are disappearing around the country in major cities. Love this about los Angeles. Plus they're improving with new lightrail options, new businesses and without the presence of white gentrification.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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But is that really apples to apples? I mean, you could simply ignore the non-black areas of L.A. and say, "The ______ area of Los Angeles has a stronger black presence than ______." I could cut out a section of Brooklyn that has a larger black population than the entire city of Atlanta. But that doesn't seem like a straight up comparison to me. Does it seem fair to you?
Apples to Apples is Metro Division if we're going to include ONLY the statistical area where Oakland is the largest city, the East Bay in the context of the Census Bureau is known as the Oakland-Fremont-Hayward, CA Metro Division.

In other words,
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale MD vs Oakland-Fremont-Hayward MD
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The thing about LA as I walk down Crenshaw is the black middle class neighborhoods are strong as ever and are not changing anytime soon. Many of these middle class hoods are disappearing around the country in major cities. Love this about los Angeles. Plus they're improving with new lightrail options, new businesses and without the presence of white gentrification.
Yes, the areas of Los Angeles that have the highest proportion of Blacks is significantly higher than like areas in the Oakland area.

Places that are 10%+, Black Alone or Combined with Another Race, 2010 Census

Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale: 28 places
View Park-Windsor Hills 89.5%
Ladera Heights 78.2%
West Athens 54.1%
West Dominguez Hills 53.9%
Westmont 52.7%
Inglewood 45.8%
Willowbrook 35.4%
Compton 34.0%
Hawthore 29.3%
Altadena 26.5%
Gardena 25.7%
Carson 25.2%
Lancaster 22.7%
East Rancho Dominguez 16.7%
Palmdale 16.5%
Bellflower 15.4%
Signal Hill 15.4%
Long Beach 15.1%
Lake Los Angeles 12.7%
Paramount 12.5%
Pasadena 12.0%
West Carson 11.8%
Culver City 11.4%
Lawndale 11.2%
Lynwood 10.9%
Los Angeles 10.6%
Alondra Park 10.4%
Lakewood 10.0%

Oakland-Fremont-Hayward: 26 places
North Richmond 34.8%
Oakland 30.5%
Richmond 28.7%
Vallejo 24.9%
Suisun City 24.2%
Fairview 23.7%
Ashland 21.6%
Hercules 20.9%
Pittsburg 20.2%
Emeryville 20.0%
Antioch 19.9%
Rodeo 19.1%
Fairfield 19.0%
San Pablo 17.3%
El Sobrante 15.6%
Pinole 15.3%
Tara Hills 15.3%
East Richmond Heights 15.1%
San Leandro 13.9%
Hayward 13.5%
Bay Point 13.3%
Cherryland 13.3%
Vacaville 12.2%
Berkeley 11.8%
Bayview 11.7%
Dublin 10.5%

So the Oakland Area has a higher proportion at 12.3% of the total population, but the LA Area's Black population(9.4% of the total population) is more heavily concentrated in specific areas.
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