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View Poll Results: Louisiana or South Carolina?
Louisiana 45 34.35%
South Carolina 86 65.65%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-10-2021, 12:42 PM
 
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I know and thats fine for those counties. I didn't realize DC was that close.

Nothing that bad for Bossier but Caddo Parish is stagnant in growth and Shreveport has been losing population since the 90s. There are some really nice areas of Shreveport, a relative of mine lived on Rutherford and her house backed up into Columbia Park, what's missing is the economy and leadership. I have spent time there, as well as Monroe. Lafayette, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans have begun keeping some of it's younger population as well as diversifying and improving the cores of their cities. They have a long way to go but are about a decade ahead of SBC and Monroe. I think Ruston has a better outlook. Out of them with Shreveport and Natchitoches second.
New Orleans is the only city in Louisiana showing population increases. What's also interesting is how impressive Shreveport skyline is for a city of this Size. Making it look more like Greensboro NC than Fayetteville NC, which has about 210,000 people with no skyline. But it has one the biggest military bases in the entire country, which is important to it neighboring states. And it is just 50 miles from the South Carolina border.

Another interesting thing is South Carolina is in shadows the states that surround it. But it has reinvented itself quite handsomely. It also had the most important port and largest southern city before even Louisiana was ever thought of.

There is no compatible beach in North Carolina to SC Myrtle Beach. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:07 PM
 
Location: USA Gulf Coast
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Cities: LA, New Orleans wins over Charleston.
Culture: LA, Cajun and jazz.
Education: Too close to call; LA has Tulane and LSU, while SC has SC university-Columbia and Clemson.
Economy and growth: SC wins in population and median income growth, as well as economic stability.
Recreation: Too close to call.
Politics: Too close to call; LA is redder than SC.
Infrastructure: Too close to call, but SC has the Arthur Ravenel Bridge.
Amenities: New Orleans give LA the edge.

Overall, LA is a better tourist state, and SC is better for a resident.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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I'm really struggling to think of a category where Louisiana is in a stronger position than South Carolina these days. Both states have interesting cultural traditions and fine recreational amenities. But South Carolina has a much healthier and more well rounded economy, more openness to outside influences, and fewer environmental vulnerabilities. South Carolina is one of the smallest states outside the Northeast, but it has a long coastline with beaches as well as marshes, rugged mountains in the opposite corner and a variety of intriguing cities that each have their own key highlights.

It wasn't a surprise in the 2010 census when SC went up from 8 to 9 electoral votes when LA went in precisely the reverse direction, from 9 to 8. Estimates during the 2010s have indicated minimal growth in LA while SC has pulled into the top 10 nationwide by percentage gains.
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Old 04-10-2021, 04:14 PM
 
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But South Carolina has a much healthier and more well rounded economy, more openness to outside influences, and fewer environmental vulnerabilities.
Is that so? Both states look like fair game when it comes to hurricane strikes. While Louisiana is the overall lower-lying state, it too has its inland areas high enough in elevation to avoid the worst regarding sea-level effects. Also, history shows some interesting shadows looming over SC.
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Old 04-10-2021, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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New Orleans is the only city in Louisiana showing population increases. What's also interesting is how impressive Shreveport skyline is for a city of this Size. Making it look more like Greensboro NC than Fayetteville NC, which has about 210,000 people with no skyline. But it has one the biggest military bases in the entire country, which is important to it neighboring states. And it is just 50 miles from the South Carolina border.

Another interesting thing is South Carolina is in shadows the states that surround it. But it has reinvented itself quite handsomely. It also had the most important port and largest southern city before even Louisiana was ever thought of.

There is no compatible beach in North Carolina to SC Myrtle Beach. NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Baton Rouge and Lafayette will show decent growth in their metro areas. Lake Charles should as well. Barksdale AFB is also a large base near Shreveport. Louisiana is also in the shadow of Texas, Houston and Dallas tap the talent pool in Louisiana like a practice squad team.


Charleston's historic prominence quickly dwindled after that.

Myrtle Beach seemed like a sleepy place when I was there.
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I'm really struggling to think of a category where Louisiana is in a stronger position than South Carolina these days. Both states have interesting cultural traditions and fine recreational amenities. But South Carolina has a much healthier and more well rounded economy, more openness to outside influences, and fewer environmental vulnerabilities. South Carolina is one of the smallest states outside the Northeast, but it has a long coastline with beaches as well as marshes, rugged mountains in the opposite corner and a variety of intriguing cities that each have their own key highlights.

It wasn't a surprise in the 2010 census when SC went up from 8 to 9 electoral votes when LA went in precisely the reverse direction, from 9 to 8. Estimates during the 2010s have indicated minimal growth in LA while SC has pulled into the top 10 nationwide by percentage gains.
Tourism and culture. Not many places in the country can compare to creole and Cajun culture.
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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Yea, South Carolina in a landslide, beats out LA in nearly every aspect. SC has a growing economy, while LA is shrinking, Both are states being overshadowed but South Carolina is gaining jobs while Louisiana is losing jobs to Arkansas, Texas and Alabama. Yea LA has the Cajun Culture but it's not exclusive to the State. You find it in MS, AL, TX, and FL. All that's really going for it is Tourism and that's almost exclusively NOLA which at any point in the hurricane season can be wiped out if one or more levees failed as 2005 has shown
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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Yea, South Carolina in a landslide, beats out LA in nearly every aspect. SC has a growing economy, while LA is shrinking, Both are states being overshadowed but South Carolina is gaining jobs while Louisiana is losing jobs to Arkansas, Texas and Alabama. Yea LA has the Cajun Culture but it's not exclusive to the State. You find it in MS, AL, TX, and FL. All that's really going for it is Tourism and that's almost exclusively NOLA which at any point in the hurricane season can be wiped out if one or more levees failed as 2005 has shown
The Louisiana GDP increased by about $30 billion since 2010.
What makes you say we are losing jobs to Arkansas?
You cannot find Cajun culture in Mississippi, Alabama, or Florida. The only Cajun culture in Texas is in Orange county. Crawfish in Houston or Jackson doesn't make it Cajun.

Charleston can be wiped out with a hurricane too. You must not be old enough to remember Hugo. Bringing up Katrina is in horrible taste.
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:45 PM
 
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The Louisiana GDP increased by about $30 billion since 2010.
What makes you say we are losing jobs to Arkansas?
You cannot find Cajun culture in Mississippi, Alabama, or Florida. The only Cajun culture in Texas is in Orange county. Crawfish in Houston or Jackson doesn't make it Cajun.

Charleston can be wiped out with a hurricane too. You must not be old enough to remember Hugo. Bringing up Katrina is in horrible taste.

I mean suppose you're right about Arkansas. You can also find Cajun culture in Mobile. It was not in bad taste, you were talking about the subject, I went through Katrina, I remember the damage. I remember seeing the news reports/videos of parts of New Orleans completely underwater. Any coastal city could hypothetically get wrecked by a hurricane but some places are more likely than others. And looking at topography map... NOLA is one of those place, it's literally a bowl, sentiment shifting has left entire areas of the city 10 feet or more below the actual sea level. Assuming 30 foot storm surge, nearly all of NOLA would be gone if one of the many levee's fail, a good portion of Charleston is well above that 30 feet mark.
Also South Carolina nearly tripled the GDP growth
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:47 PM
 
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I prefer the Charlotte suburbs in SC.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Baton Rouge and Lafayette will show decent growth in their metro areas. Lake Charles should as well. Barksdale AFB is also a large base near Shreveport. Louisiana is also in the shadow of Texas, Houston and Dallas tap the talent pool in Louisiana like a practice squad team.
To be fair, SC is also between Atlanta and Charlotte but it does have the advantage of catching suburban spillover from Charlotte.

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Charleston's historic prominence quickly dwindled after that.
After what? I think part of your post got cut off.

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Myrtle Beach seemed like a sleepy place when I was there.
I'm guessing it was in the off-season.

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Tourism and culture. Not many places in the country can compare to creole and Cajun culture.
They are a tie on that front IMO. Overall, LA gets the nod on culture whereas SC gets it for tourism in general.
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