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View Poll Results: Which cities sound do you prefer?
Memphis 9 8.74%
Washington DC 2 1.94%
Philadelphia 34 33.01%
Detroit 25 24.27%
Chicago 11 10.68%
Atlanta 12 11.65%
Other 10 9.71%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2013, 02:27 AM
 
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Barry White, Rick James, The Pointer Sisters, Anita Baker, Freddie Jackson, and The Force MDs.

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Old 11-06-2013, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Eastwatch by the sea
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^^Mint is my favorite band ever and I have all their albums and singles. That "music @ the speed of life" album goes hardddd!!! Stokley still sounds like he did in 1991. looks like we like the same type of music. I was just listening to Cherrelle's Affair album this morning on my way to work. lol.

But yeah, Jimmy Jam did a lot and so did Prince. Can't forget about Vanity 6, Sheila E, Sounds of Blackness, Morris day/The Time and host of others that held down MPLS. Hell, Ready for the world own their career to Prince just from the sound of their music.

Weren't the Jets also from Minneapolis?

Going back to NYC, you got Mary J, Mariah, Whitney (just outside, in Jersey), SWV, etc. lots and lots of artists.
Mint Condition is bad! Those cats are tried and true! They have withstood the test of time; and they are still here. If someone has the rest of this B.E.T. concert (see below) and can provide me with it, I'll forever be in your debt! I'd take a pretend, super soft, rubber bullet for you, if you can provide me with the Rahsaan Patterson (The Bronx) concert, from the same show. The one that featured Meshell Ndegeocello on bass! She killed Come Over. The little sista is bad!



I remember when Ready For The World (Flint, MI) dropped Tonight. We all thought that the group Dreamboy had dropped another album. RFTW "copped" Prince's style hard! What can I say? It was a successful formula.

Yes, The Jets are from Minneapolis; I didn't know that! They were talented.
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:24 AM
 
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Atlantic Starr, Midnight Star, Guy, Michael Cooper, Club Nouveau, Cheryl Lynn, Stephanie Mills, and Whitney Houston.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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Philadelphia.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Atlantic Starr, Midnight Star, Guy, Michael Cooper, Club Nouveau, Cheryl Lynn, Stephanie Mills, and Whitney Houston.
I never realized Stephanie Mills was from Brooklyn. I feel like her songs always get played back to back with Sybil's.


Sybil Don't Make Me Over - YouTube
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:40 AM
 
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As much as I hate to admit liking anything you like <i too am a big fan of the Minneapolis Sound.

Alexander Oneal especially.And yes,Mint Condition is one of the best newer soul bands in the last 25 years easily.
Haha.
There are certain artists who I have all their albums and most (if not all) their cd singles of. Stokley and company, and Alex O'Neal are in that club for me. Even the Alexander O'Neal My Gift To You Xmas album I bump when its not Christmas lol. That's how much I love his music and how good it is.

My favorite Mint song is "U Send Me Swingin'" (from From the Mint Factory) and "On and On" (from Definition Of A Band). From The Mint Factory is probably my favorite album ever (easily my fav album of the 90s). I know all the songs by heart: Back To Your Lovin', If the Feelings Right, Good for Your Heart, Fidelity, 10 Million Strong, etc all of it. But I do have to correct you, they are not one of the best newer soul bands in the last 25 years, they are THE best lol. Some might say Tony! Toni! Tone! (my 2nd fav from the same era, and then Jodeci in 3rd which is also a "band" in a way but to a lesser extent), but it's easily Mint for me. The consistently and longevity surpasses anything else.

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You Don't Have to Hurt No More and Nothing Left to say are my favorites.

Oh and there very first single that bombed was also one of the best New Jack Songs out there.

"Are You Free"


mint condition - are you free - YouTube
I agree. It was a good single. Sucks that I didnt do too well. But we all know how the next two singles did especially the 2nd one. If you look closely in the video for Are You Free you will see actress Elise Neal (the Hughleys) as a back up dancer.

To me the best uptempo single on Meant To Be Mint was Here We Go Again, That would of done much better.

The same thing happened to Jodeci when they first came out. "Gotta Love" bombed (bombed worse than Are you Free did), but then all the ballad singles that came after did the job.

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Mint Condition is bad! Those cats are tried and true! They have withstood the test of time; and they are still here. If someone has the rest of this B.E.T. concert (see below) and can provide me with it, I'll forever be in your debt! I'd take a pretend, super soft, rubber bullet for you, if you can provide me with the Rahsaan Patterson (The Bronx) concert, from the same show. The one that featured Meshell Ndegeocello on bass! She killed Come Over. The little sista is bad!



I remember when Ready For The World (Flint, MI) dropped Tonight. We all thought that the group Dreamboy had dropped another album. RFTW "copped" Prince's style hard! What can I say? It was a successful formula.

Yes, The Jets are from Minneapolis; I didn't know that! They were talented.
Damn we got the same tastes. lol
The Mint Condition performance you just posted I have in mp3. There was also a mini instrumental jam session they did on BET that is badd as hell. Someone just uploaded it on youtube recently.
The performence that I wish someone would upload is when they performed Sly and Family Stone's "Family Affair" on NY Undercover (I think it was 1997 or so). I think I would come close to fainting if I saw that again.

So many Mint or Stokely solo songs that are not on studio albums are true gems. Like Stokley performing Isley Brothers "Make Me Say It Again", his "If You Love Me" (solo version), Mint's "Pretty Brown Eyes" (Tear Drop Remix), "Cupids Hunt", "If Trouble Were Money" from the Jasons Lyrics Soundtrack, "My Dear" (Mo Money Soundtrack, though it appears on the Collection greatest hits album from 1998), etc. Too many to name. I bump these joints religiously lol.

Back to RFTW, they did jack Prince's style lol. But also put out great singles.
Some might say Troop did the same to New Edition lol.

Did you know there is an actual music video for "Caught My Eye" from the 7... album? It was just released recently and put on youtube.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I won't deny that they were entertaining. However, the difference between these cats and the cats from the 70s and 80s is that the latter groups were not only vocalists, they were instrumentalists.
This is true. The songwriting was also better then. I mean, Ronald Isley says:

"Oh, I believe, you are a rainbow
All the Heaven I need to see
You're the promise everlasting
Where you are I hope to be"

Who writes stuff like that anymore? Nobody. I think only the Neo Soul of the mid to late 90s can give that era a run for its money (and it still loses because the artists from that era weren't nearly as numerous and prolific as the ones from the 70s).

Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite is still, imo, the definitive work of the Neo Soul movement. Who's messing with lines like "lose myself inside her ebony" and "flavor with a cocoa kinda flow?" Urban Hang Suite is 11 tracks of pure ectsacy and it stands head and shoulders above all other albums from that period. I'd be willing to put it up against any album of the 70s. It's just that smooth.

I'd also throw Erykah Badu's Mama's Gun into the mix. This album was up there with Michael Jackson's Off the Wall in terms of the quality and thoughtfulness of its composition. ?uestlove and J. Dilla did a brilliant job with it. All 14 songs are so deep and rich (some don't like Penitentiary Philosophy, but I do). But Orange Moon, Didn't Cha Know, Time's a Wastin, Kiss Me on My Neck, and Bag Lady just pushed this album into the stratosphere. Then there's that ballad with Stephen Marley that's simply sublime. Again, I'd put this up against anything (if not above) from the 70s.

Same thing with Baduizm. Only I think Mama's Gun is a better album from front to back.

Brown Sugar, while good, was not as good as VooDoo, imo, and I can think of a ton of albums from the 70s that were better. It's still one of the definitive albums of the movement though.

Who Is Jill Scott? rounds out my Neo Soul canon. I'd also put this up against just about any album from the 70s.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Another album that will stand the test of time is Raphael Saadiq's Instant Vintage. How fitting a title, right?

"You got me wide open, and I'm diggin' you so baby keep it comin.'


Raphael Siddiq - Skyy Can You Feel Me - YouTube
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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This is taking it back to college. The Isley Brothers' "Sensuality" was the cut until Maxwell put this on the Love Jones soundtrack. He shut the game down completely with this one.


Maxwell - Sumthin' Sumthin'- Mellosmoothe (Cut) - YouTube
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Haha.
There are certain artists who I have all their albums and most (if not all) their cd singles of. Stokley and company, and Alex O'Neal are in that club for me. Even the Alexander O'Neal My Gift To You Xmas album I bump when its not Christmas lol. That's how much I love his music and how good it is.

My favorite Mint song is "U Send Me Swingin'" (from From the Mint Factory) and "On and On" (from Definition Of A Band). From The Mint Factory is probably my favorite album ever (easily my fav album of the 90s). I know all the songs by heart: Back To Your Lovin', If the Feelings Right, Good for Your Heart, Fidelity, 10 Million Strong, etc all of it. But I do have to correct you, they are not one of the best newer soul bands in the last 25 years, they are THE best lol. Some might say Tony! Toni! Tone! (my 2nd fav from the same era, and then Jodeci in 3rd which is also a "band" in a way but to a lesser extent), but it's easily Mint for me. The consistently and longevity surpasses anything else.



I agree. It was a good single. Sucks that I didnt do too well. But we all know how the next two singles did especially the 2nd one. If you look closely in the video for Are You Free you will see actress Elise Neal (the Hughleys) as a back up dancer.

To me the best uptempo single on Meant To Be Mint was Here We Go Again, That would of done much better.

The same thing happened to Jodeci when they first came out. "Gotta Love" bombed (bombed worse than Are you Free did), but then all the ballad singles that came after did the job.



Damn we got the same tastes. lol
The Mint Condition performance you just posted I have in mp3. There was also a mini instrumental jam session they did on BET that is badd as hell. Someone just uploaded it on youtube recently.
The performence that I wish someone would upload is when they performed Sly and Family Stone's "Family Affair" on NY Undercover (I think it was 1997 or so). I think I would come close to fainting if I saw that again.

So many Mint or Stokely solo songs that are not on studio albums are true gems. Like Stokley performing Isley Brothers "Make Me Say It Again", his "If You Love Me" (solo version), Mint's "Pretty Brown Eyes" (Tear Drop Remix), "Cupids Hunt", "If Trouble Were Money" from the Jasons Lyrics Soundtrack, "My Dear" (Mo Money Soundtrack, though it appears on the Collection greatest hits album from 1998), etc. Too many to name. I bump these joints religiously lol.

Back to RFTW, they did jack Prince's style lol. But also put out great singles.
Some might say Troop did the same to New Edition lol.

Did you know there is an actual music video for "Caught My Eye" from the 7... album? It was just released recently and put on youtube.
Yeah I'm with you on this. Mint Condition has always been my favorite and u send me swingin was mybfavorite from them. Someone to love is rightbaftervthrm. Thy didnt get the popularity as much as Jodeci or Boyz 2 Men. They probably didnt get the popularity if Silk. Not to say any of those were bad groups or anything but Mint just a brought a way different feel to music in the 90s.
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