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As someone who has been to both but is from the midwest, I'd have to say San Francisco. New York City is an awesome city, truly a world city but I don't think I would ever live there. Barring the insane COL (SF is no walk in the park), I get sort of an "establishment" feel. Sort of like I wouldn't make friends or go far in career because I was not raised in "old money" and I don't have high-place connections. I feel as if I would be able to establish a more comfortable life out west.
And the weather out west is significantly better, I'm about done with this snow madness.
Don't find her attractive, don't like her music... her voice is so weak and uninteresting... but hey, to each his or her own.
yeah she sings that VH1 song
She is pretty attractive... and I'm mostly just being a d**k - I'm sure if she got up and sang at a bar I wouldn't just walk out.
I was mostly just trying to make a point. What is cool to and makes Harlem so vibrant in your opinion is kind of boring to me - on the flip side the artists from SF that I would flip out about would probably be boring / weird to you.
She is pretty attractive... and I'm mostly just being a d**k - I'm sure if she got up and sang at a bar I wouldn't just walk out.
I dunno, she just has that something about her overall look that is totally off my radar, and I really don't like her hair. It's also kind of funny that, after all this talk of SF having unattractive girls with no booty, we have as an example of a New York babe a thin, flat-reared girl who I could easily see walking down the street near the UC Berkeley campus on her way back from yoga. LOL.
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I was mostly just trying to make a point. What is cool to and makes Harlem so vibrant in your opinion is kind of boring to me - on the flip side the artists from SF that I would flip out about would probably be boring / weird to you.
See, I honestly would get up and leave... haha. That sort of music is seriously thumbs-down for me. It's like Coldplay... just with a girl singing. Beige carpet, unintrusive, uninteresting, sleepy... etc.
. When's the last time Elle Varner or Corinne Bailey Rae came through the TL for a live dinner performance?
Corrine Bailey Rae played in the Regency Ballroom on the western edge of the Tenderloin on April 15, 2010, apparently.
Corinne Bailey Rae Tickets at The Regency Ballroom in San Francisco, CA on April 15, 2010 - Zvents (http://www.zvents.com/z/san_francisco_ca/corinne-bailey-rae--events--99036225#venue_map - broken link)
Don't know about Elle Varner, but in the next few weeks you could walk to the Warfield Theatre(on Market Street on the south end of the Tenderolin) to see Lauren Hill or Elvis Costello or up to the Great American Music Hall to see Los Campesinos or over to the Orpheum to see a Broadway show or maybe even something at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium. Walk a little further to the west (walking, not taking a train for 20 minutes) and you can see jazz at Yoshi's or Built to Spill at the Fillmore or something at the Independent. The Tenderloin is actually one of the best positioned neighborhoods in terms of live music and events in San Francisco, considering it borders the theater district of SF.
I was mostly just trying to make a point. What is cool to and makes Harlem so vibrant in your opinion is kind of boring to me - on the flip side the artists from SF that I would flip out about would probably be boring / weird to you.
That's true. But I think NYC has that extra dimension that many cities don't have, which I would call black haute culture. A large, black professional class that is less hip-hop oriented and more into alternative forms of African American and Caribbean artistic expression. Even if you don't like it, at least the option's there to be exercised if you need more variety.
Corrine Bailey Rae played in the Regency Ballroom on the western edge of the Tenderloin on April 15, 2010, apparently.
Corinne Bailey Rae Tickets at The Regency Ballroom in San Francisco, CA on April 15, 2010 - Zvents (http://www.zvents.com/z/san_francisco_ca/corinne-bailey-rae--events--99036225#venue_map - broken link)
Don't know about Elle Varner, but in the next few weeks you could walk to the Warfield Theatre(on Market Street on the south end of the Tenderolin) to see Lauren Hill or Elvis Costello or up to the Great American Music Hall to see Los Campesinos or over to the Orpheum to see a Broadway show or maybe even something at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium. Walk a little further to the west (walking, not taking a train for 20 minutes) and you can see jazz at Yoshi's or Built to Spill at the Fillmore or something at the Independent. The Tenderloin is actually one of the best positioned neighborhoods in terms of live music and events in San Francisco, considering it borders the theater district of SF.
Good points, I do think Yoshi's is in Oakland though...
[should probably look things up before I post - there's one in SF too]
I dunno, she just has that something about her overall look that is totally off my radar, and I really don't like her hair. It's also kind of funny that, after all this talk of SF having unattractive girls with no booty, we have as an example of a New York babe a thin, flat-reared girl who I could easily see walking down the street near the UC Berkeley campus on her way back from yoga. LOL.
I have four weaknesses: (1) curly hair; (2) girls in the 5'7 to 5'9 height range; (3) British accents; and (4) dancers. CBR has three of those things working for her. Although she's not a dancer, she has that dancer frame, and there's something so quintessentially feminine and whimsical about dancers. That probably explains why they're often the flakiest women you'll ever deal with.
Good points, I do think Yoshi's is in Oakland though...
[should probably look things up before I post - there's one in SF too]
Yeah, the Yoshi's in Oakland is bigger and seems to get better jazz acts than the one in San Francisco, but it's nice to have the new one in San Francisco too... The one in Oakland is probably one of my favorite jazz venues I've been to outside of places I went to in New York.
And I forgot about the Boom Boom Room(owned by bluesman John Lee Hooker before he died) up by the Fillmore and Yoshi's as well. Great place to see some good funk bands and blues musicians...
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