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View Poll Results: My preference aligns with?
Chicago's Italian Beef 29 44.62%
San Francisco's Mission Burrito 36 55.38%
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I don't know how you can get off by saying what you just said - you can actually find this in most areas of Greece.
I can "get off" by saying it because it's true. The processed and pre-formed gyro cylinder as we know it is an American invention -- a Chicago invention to be more specific -- comprised of beef and lamb; whereas Greek gyros are usually pork or chicken and are formed from a stack of sliced meats rather than processed and formed into a solid cone. These are not trivial differences.


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-- Mission Burrito, derived from something in Mexico, changed over time and "Americanized". Invented in San Francisco and popular in America
-- Gyro, derived from something in Greece/Turkey, changed over time and "Americanized" a little bit. Brought to America first by way of Chicago and fairly popular in some parts of America
So to summarize, the gyros most often found here -- those where long ribbons are cut from a pre-fab meat cylinder -- are about as authentic as mission burritos.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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So to summarize, the gyros most often found here -- those where long ribbons are cut from a pre-fab meat cylinder -- are about as authentic as mission burritos.
No, they are more authentic than a Mission Burrito is for sure. Have you even been to Greece? I have - you can get gyros over there like you can here - those are the basic versions while over here it's the norm.

Again, the point is that because of their popularity in the US, they are the better comparison for this thread than an Italian Beef is. It wouldn't even matter if they weren't authentic because Mission Burritos aren't authentic either.

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I can "get off" by saying it because it's true. The processed and pre-formed gyro cylinder as we know it is an American invention -- a Chicago invention to be more specific -- comprised of beef and lamb; whereas Greek gyros are usually pork or chicken and are formed from a stack of sliced meats rather than processed and formed into a solid cone. These are not trivial differences.
This is not true - travel to Greece or Turkey and you will see the same exact **** going on at some places (not all, or even most, but some). Hell, last time I was in Istanbul I was at a place and the guy walked in with a pre-made hunk of Doner meat on a cylinder. Luckily I was eating the lahmacun
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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So at "some" places but not "most" places in Greece you will find pre-fab meat cones. Which is to say, they are "usually" not pre-fab cones. Which is exactly what I said. Whereas here in America the processed pre-fab cones are the near-universal form of gyros.

So to summarize, the gyros most often found here -- those where long ribbons are cut from a pre-fab meat cylinder and formed from different meats than those usually found in Greece -- are about as authentic as mission burritos.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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So to summarize, the gyros most often found here -- those where long ribbons are cut from a pre-fab meat cylinder and formed from different meats than those usually found in Greece -- are about as authentic as mission burritos.
No, because the composition of the actual Ingrediants together into the final product forms something that is much more authentic than the Mission Burrito is. Get it? It's pretty simple. Also, you can definitely find gyros in the US that are not made from pre-packaged meat on the spit.

In the end, who cares. It's a better comparison than the Italian Beef is.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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If you say so.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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If you say so.
The mission burrito is popular in the US - the gyro is more popular than the Italian beef outside of the Chicago area. Both were introduced to the US by these respective places.

BTW Nick's Drive In in Edison Park is an example of a place that makes their own meat and doesn't use Kronos
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Old 04-16-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Italian Beef all the way!
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix Arizona
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Bay Area people, Californians in general; there should never be rice in a burrito. Never.










Never.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Bay Area people, Californians in general; there should never be rice in a burrito. Never.










Never.
Si simon.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:55 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Bay Area people, Californians in general; there should never be rice in a burrito. Never.










Never.
Agreed, that's why I prefer the style of burritos in Southern CA.
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