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Most people in other countries don't care about New York City either.
Most people in the world really aren't all that obsessed with other world cities as much as CD is. Travelers who love cities rave about it, but more often than not I hear about historical sights and natural scenery more than I hear about cities.
I estimated the SF Bay Area was either #5 or #6 in influence, but gave it the benefit of the doubt as at least #5 in selecting the 1-5 category. Silicon Valley at its southern edge provides a strong business/technology influence. SF itself has finance and creative industries. Then there is the tourism factor. The SF Bay Area always rates high with people visiting and the nearby coastal region and winery regions help, too. The area has a strong pro sports scene and two teams exist for MLB and NFL fans like you find in NYC. (You don't have that with Dallas, Philadelphia, Houston and most other regions).Colleges are well known and offer a college sports scene and more importantly quality higher education: UC-Berkeley, Stanford, San Jose State, Santa Clara, USF and more. Plenty of restaurants, shopping, and entertainment in the region (as a "top five" area should have).
Alameda County: 49% SF Giants fans, 28% Oakland A's fans
Contra Costa County: 57% SF Giants fans, 24% Oakland A's fans
Now this is based off facebook, but even New York, Chicago, and LA have areas where the secondary team owns a market. Though off the baseball map, the Mets don't have a plurality in any zip code either, 30% of the NY market is still large enough to support its own team.
The White Sox and Angels both own a huge chunk of their respective areas.
There has been talk of moving both the Raiders and A's out of the Bay Area, a lot due to this very reason.
But that has nothing to do with being a Top 5 area.
I think the only other cities that has a decent claim at being number 5 over SF is Boston, Philadelphia, Dallas, or Houston. Still 1/3 of the voters seem to vote for the 6-10 grouping, so I wonder what it could be.
My cousin and her husband are artists who based out of New York City for many years, and now live in the Bay Area of California.
They frequently travel to Italy as well as Germany to exhibit their work.
Furthermore, over the past decade or so, they've both received grants/fellowships that have allowed them to work in Italy, totaling about two years or so between the two of them.
To my envy, they're also very much in touch with our relatives who never left the Old Country.
That said, they've shared with me on several different occasions that telling Italian folks you're from/live in California elicits a much different reaction than telling them you're from/live in New York, similar to Americans. Based on what they've told me, Italians don't really seem to care for New York, as evidenced by their reactions/facial expressions or lack thereof when you make mention New York. FWIW, if an Italian or Italian-American has a reaction or contorts their face over something, that's an indicator they don't really care for it, as ethnic Italian people like most Mediterranean folks are very expressive, myself included. OTOH however, most Italian folks speak lovingly of California when you tell them that's where you live.
The reason / problem is 100% the stadium not the area...
But it doesn't help when the fans in that area don't even really cheer for that team. New York gets a slide because its large enough to support 2 teams, but the Bay Area, I sort of have my doubts on it. But I'm not a businessperson who owns a team, so the owners of those teams can do what they want. I would rather move them IMO.
My cousin and her husband are artists who based out of New York City for many years, and now live in the Bay Area of California.
They frequently travel to Italy as well as Germany to exhibit their work.
Furthermore, over the past decade or so, they've both received grants/fellowships that have allowed them to work in Italy, totaling about two years or so between the two of them.
To my envy, they're also very much in touch with our relatives who never left the Old Country.
That said, they've shared with me on several different occasions that telling Italian folks you're from/live in California elicits a much different reaction than telling them you're from/live in New York, similar to Americans. Based on what they've told me, Italians don't really seem to care for New York, as evidenced by their reactions/facial expressions or lack thereof when you make mention New York. FWIW, if an Italian or Italian-American has a reaction or contorts their face over something, that's an indicator they don't really care for it, as ethnic Italian people like most Mediterranean folks are very expressive, myself included. OTOH however, most Italian folks speak lovingly of California when you tell them that's where you live.
Hilarious.
Now let's look at to facts rather your personal, unscientific, biased anecdotes.
Italy's favorite city in the world is NYC, according to that poll:
According to the Census, there are 5 million Italians living in the New York Metro area and 1.5 million living in California.
But the few tourists you've talked to are more credible than the numbers, huh?
Look - I was raised in Northern California but even I know Euros of all nationalities will generally pick NYC as their favorite city in America. No questions about it.
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