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Where on Earth are the moderators? How long does this go on as-is?
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This thread is a real mess to try to clean up now. None of the "Toronto" posts should even be here.
Ok, I've deleted 77 posts so what was once a 20 page thread is now down to 9. The "Toronto" posts are gone and so are the replies where they are mentioned.
Please do not let this happen again, to any thread.
Now that thats over, I think Seattle will have a huge change the the downtown. The new waterfront, rail lines, and development of South Lake Union will rebrand the area. Convention center expansion will bring bigger events and more money to the area. Hopefully the development of SoDo will hit strides by 2020.
I wouldn't hold too much stock in convention center expansions since EVERY city is either expanding, refurbishing or seriously considering doing so to theirs in order to keep up with the Joneses. If you aren't already a convention city expanding your CC won't necessarily make you a convention city either. There are always exceptions -- and I think Seattle is a legitimate possibility -- but generally I feel this is true, and don't personally wish for my cities (Cleveland and Minneapolis) to start that game.
I wouldn't hold too much stock in convention center expansions since EVERY city is either expanding, refurbishing or seriously considering doing so to theirs in order to keep up with the Joneses. If you aren't already a convention city expanding your CC won't necessarily make you a convention city either. There are always exceptions -- and I think Seattle is a legitimate possibility -- but generally I feel this is true, and don't personally wish for my cities (Cleveland and Minneapolis) to start that game.
I think its alitte different for seattle especially with such a strong video game and tech industry. We already host PAX prime which sold out 80,000 tickets in minutes and we have had to reject alot of events because the venue is too small. I think what makes Seattle interesting is its not like typically convention cities. Its i. The heart if downtown, with 12,000 hotel rooms with in a small compact area, lot os unique bars and restaurants, and its easy to walk around. By 2020 we should be up to 14,000 hotel rooms downtown. Have conventions will help bring more money so the downtown can further evolve. I keep hearing from out of state vistors who went to PAX prime say how much they loved being in the city and it was in experience they hadn't gotten in LA or Vegas. Hope more events with help turn our downtown into a true destination.
I wouldn't hold too much stock in convention center expansions since EVERY city is either expanding, refurbishing or seriously considering doing so to theirs in order to keep up with the Joneses. If you aren't already a convention city expanding your CC won't necessarily make you a convention city either. There are always exceptions -- and I think Seattle is a legitimate possibility -- but generally I feel this is true, and don't personally wish for my cities (Cleveland and Minneapolis) to start that game.
I agree - convention center expansions are generally a losing game for the cities involved. They tend to produce hulking unfriendly block long buildings to boot. Sadly, its a bit late for Cleveland to have second thoughts though since it just finished its expansion a year ago.
From the list I chose downtown Los Angeles. DTLA is becoming "walkable" with all of the new residential buildings being built and small businesses sprouting everywhere. Urbanization is alive and well in DTLA. Also, the river project alone will transform the city.
Not on the list I believe downtown Las Vegas should get a mention. Tony Hseih (CEO of Zappos) has done an extraordinary job of transforming downtown Las Vegas with his vision and investment. Once empty and dilapidated buildings and storefronts now house unique small businesses, restored buildings, technology start-ups and new apartments. Zappos' move from Henderson, NV to the old Las Vegas City Hall building basically started downtown's renaissance. The storage container park is a must visit as well as the many vibrant small businesses and the nearby Mob Museum. DT Vegas is now a place that people want to visit, invest and live. So much has happened is such a short period of time.
I agree - convention center expansions are generally a losing game for the cities involved. They tend to produce hulking unfriendly block long buildings to boot. Sadly, its a bit late for Cleveland to have second thoughts though since it just finished its expansion a year ago.
I know, and I did one of these as soon as I realized that! But to be clear, if there is a city that could actually benefit from this I think Seattle is on that short list.
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