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Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Originally Posted by U146
Maryland is Southern only in that it's South of the Mason Dixon line. Western Maryland is like Southwest Pennsylvania culturally linguistically and demographically. I agree that Southern MD and the Eastern shore are Southern but that's the minority of the state. The rest of the state is culturally and linguistically Northern. If you think Maryland is an overall Southern state today you've never been to the South or looked at a linguistics map.
You say this and yet you attempt to defeat any argument about Virginia having similarities to PA by clinging to its southern history.
Maryland is Southern only in that it's South of the Mason Dixon line. Western Maryland is like Southwest Pennsylvania culturally linguistically and demographically. I agree that Southern MD and the Eastern shore are Southern but that's the minority of the state. The rest of the state is culturally and linguistically Northern. If you think Maryland is an overall Southern state today you've never been to the South or looked at a linguistics map.
How is Anne Arundel County northern? Since you've been.
I've never been there. But I've seen numerous TV interviews of local people from Richmond. They sounded very Southern. And I know people from Richmond who tell me it's Southern and have Southern accents. And dialect maps place Richmond firmly in the South. You don't need to visit a city to have a well informed opinion of it like all you crazy people on here claim.
Richmond and Richmond County are NOT the same place (they aren't even next to reach other)! This is why I asked you about it. You cannot make claims about a place to which you have never been and then get mad when those who have been to the place disagree with you!
Richmond and Richmond County are NOT the same place (they aren't even next to reach other) ! This is why I asked you about it. You cannot make claims about a place to which you have never been and then get mad when those who have been to the place disagree with you!
I have facts backing my opinion up though. Linguistic studies trump personal experience every time.
You say this and yet you attempt to defeat any argument about Virginia having similarities to PA by clinging to its southern history.
WOT, MATE!?
I'm not clinging to it's Southern history. Culture linguistics demographics AND history prove its nothing like Pennsylvania. Yet you ignore these important factors and continue your arguments. Lunacy.
So tell me, how long did you live in Louisiana for? For that matter how long did you live in Virginia for? How about Pennsylvania?
I've lived in all three. Have you?
I've been to Louisiana many times. I have family there. I've also visited Virginia and Pennsylvania numerous times. To say that Virginia is more similar to a Northern state than a Southern one is lunacy. I'm wasting your time? You're the one who seems to think culture linguistics demographics etc. don't matter. Clearly YOU are wasting my time.
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Originally Posted by U146
I've been to Louisiana many times. I've also visited Virginia and Pennsylvania numerous times. To say that Virginia is more similar to a Northern state than a Southern one is lunacy. I'm wasting your time? You're the one who seems to think culture linguistics demographics etc. don't matter. Clearly YOU are wasting my time.
Well you aren't actually paying any attention to what I'm saying at all. None. Zero. Zip. Nilch. Nadda.
You are literally not reading a single thing I say. No, no, allow me to correct that, you aren't comprehending anything I say.
You are literally reading my words and taking the meaning you want from them rather than the meaning I present.
I could say, "Birds make Charlie feel like a whacky banana man" and you'd take it as, "Virignia is as northern as New Hampshire and U146 is a wrongy wrong."
You are literally not paying any attention to what I say.
Want to know how I came to this conclusion? I have not once, at all, ever said that Virginia was northern or more similar to the north than the south.
I said Virginia had more immediate similarities to PA than Louisiana, but in that same breath I also said it shared more similarities with Kentucky and North Carolina. Southern states. I also said it was more similar to West Virginia than Louisiana, arguably southern as well!
I said Virginia has similarities to Pennsylvania yet in that same breath I also stated that Virginia is still overall a southern state. In that having similarities to a northern state does not negate its southern characteristics.
You have, several times now, accused me of claiming that Virginia is not southern and claiming it was more like PA than any other southern state.
You are not paying any attention. My time: wasted. I am done with you now. Go feel like the victor now, I know you will.
I have facts backing my opinion up though. Linguistic studies trump personal experience every time.
Looking at linguistics maps, one would observe that 50-80% of Maryland is southern. Let's say 2/3.
Linguistics do not tell the whole story, though. It does not matter what a map says, there are other ways for Virginia to be more like Pennsylvania than South Carolina.
But here you are lying about the linguistic location of Anne Arundel County. You also claim this whole "cultural" thing without proof as well.
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