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I think it is intertesting how Appalachian cities get such a bad rap as poverty ridden and western booming suburban areas get such rave reviews economically.
I looked up some interesting numbers on per-capita incomes.
Pinal County, Arizona which is bursting at the seams with brand new housing had a 2014 per-capita income of 20,983. This is mainly due to the staggering birth rates in the area with huge homes with massive families.
Charleston, West Virginia which has seem severe population declines including severe population decline in the number of families with children has a per-capita income of 34,944
Utah County, Utah which had one of the highest job growth in the nation and had been in national publications because of its economic boom has a per-capita income of 20,973. North Las Vegas, NV a fast growing suburb of Las Vegas with lots of new housing devolopments has a per-capita income of 21,003. On the other hand Wheeling, West Virginia has a per-capita income of 24,831 and Weirton, WV 25,569.
Interestingly just by the looking at the economies of these declining population Appalachian cities it seems as though most have extremely low percentages of families with children. A high percentage of the population is dual income no kids couples which raises per-capita incomes. It seems as though there are still quite a few manufacturing and extraction jobs in these areas albeit far less then there used to be, also a very high percentage of workers in government and health-care in comparison to many areas. I would also venture to guess alot of these former blue-collar workers likely recieve a fairly highly social security payment as many of the former jobs payed well and those past earnings figure into social security payments.
On the other hand in the West you have lots of young people in their 20s and 30s with huge families. I have noticed it is not uncommon for people in newer suburbs to have several kids by the time they are 30. Also lots of stay at home wives in the West as it makes no sense for them to work.
It is interesting how the stereotypical down and out mountain towns are in better shape on a per-capita basis then the swimming in debt McMansion western suburbs.
Having a lower income per capita isn't the same as swimming in debt. How did you make that connection? A better comparison would be median income of workers/full time workers, or you mind as well be comparing the incomes of seniors.
I'm not sure you're doing an apples to apples comparison here in the narrative you're trying to push. Pinal County Arizona is an Exurban county at best and straddles both the Tucson and Phoenician metropolitan areas. It's filled with retirees and a reservation. These factors make the county look artificially poorer than it is. On top of it, the county is largely rural and it's one central city Casa Grande is over 40 miles from the border with Maricopa County.
Using a county like that to say western suburbs have a lower per capita income vs. Appalacian cities is intellectually dishonest at best.Phoenix's suburbs are contained almost entirely within Maricopa county itself. The fact that you are using a commuter county that wouldn't otherwise be included if a statistician hadn't deemed it so is questionable. Here is a link to the census quickfacts page, where you can compare incomes and populations. QuickFacts Using actual Phoenician suburbs doesn't produce the same result. I cannot speak for Utah County, but it feels like your reaching a little too hard to push this narrative. It doesn't hold up with more logical comparisons.
Having a lower income per capita isn't the same as swimming in debt. How did you make that connection? A better comparison would be median income of workers/full time workers, or you mind as well be comparing the incomes of seniors.
I think it is intertesting how Appalachian cities get such a bad rap as poverty ridden and western booming suburban areas get such rave reviews economically.
I looked up some interesting numbers on per-capita incomes.
Pinal County, Arizona which is bursting at the seams with brand new housing had a 2014 per-capita income of 20,983. This is mainly due to the staggering birth rates in the area with huge homes with massive families.
Charleston, West Virginia which has seem severe population declines including severe population decline in the number of families with children has a per-capita income of 34,944
Utah County, Utah which had one of the highest job growth in the nation and had been in national publications because of its economic boom has a per-capita income of 20,973. North Las Vegas, NV a fast growing suburb of Las Vegas with lots of new housing devolopments has a per-capita income of 21,003. On the other hand Wheeling, West Virginia has a per-capita income of 24,831 and Weirton, WV 25,569.
Interestingly just by the looking at the economies of these declining population Appalachian cities it seems as though most have extremely low percentages of families with children. A high percentage of the population is dual income no kids couples which raises per-capita incomes. It seems as though there are still quite a few manufacturing and extraction jobs in these areas albeit far less then there used to be, also a very high percentage of workers in government and health-care in comparison to many areas. I would also venture to guess alot of these former blue-collar workers likely recieve a fairly highly social security payment as many of the former jobs payed well and those past earnings figure into social security payments.
On the other hand in the West you have lots of young people in their 20s and 30s with huge families. I have noticed it is not uncommon for people in newer suburbs to have several kids by the time they are 30. Also lots of stay at home wives in the West as it makes no sense for them to work.
It is interesting how the stereotypical down and out mountain towns are in better shape on a per-capita basis then the swimming in debt McMansion western suburbs.
I think it is intertesting how Appalachian cities get such a bad rap as poverty ridden and western booming suburban areas get such rave reviews economically.
I looked up some interesting numbers on per-capita incomes.
Pinal County, Arizona which is bursting at the seams with brand new housing had a 2014 per-capita income of 20,983. This is mainly due to the staggering birth rates in the area with huge homes with massive families.
Charleston, West Virginia which has seem severe population declines including severe population decline in the number of families with children has a per-capita income of 34,944
Utah County, Utah which had one of the highest job growth in the nation and had been in national publications because of its economic boom has a per-capita income of 20,973. North Las Vegas, NV a fast growing suburb of Las Vegas with lots of new housing devolopments has a per-capita income of 21,003. On the other hand Wheeling, West Virginia has a per-capita income of 24,831 and Weirton, WV 25,569.
Interestingly just by the looking at the economies of these declining population Appalachian cities it seems as though most have extremely low percentages of families with children. A high percentage of the population is dual income no kids couples which raises per-capita incomes. It seems as though there are still quite a few manufacturing and extraction jobs in these areas albeit far less then there used to be, also a very high percentage of workers in government and health-care in comparison to many areas. I would also venture to guess alot of these former blue-collar workers likely recieve a fairly highly social security payment as many of the former jobs payed well and those past earnings figure into social security payments.
On the other hand in the West you have lots of young people in their 20s and 30s with huge families. I have noticed it is not uncommon for people in newer suburbs to have several kids by the time they are 30. Also lots of stay at home wives in the West as it makes no sense for them to work.
It is interesting how the stereotypical down and out mountain towns are in better shape on a per-capita basis then the swimming in debt McMansion western suburbs.
Pinal County has a higher median family income than the county (Kanawha) Charleston is in per City Data. The lower per capita numbers are a function of the fact that you have a lot of young families with lots of kids (Mormons & Hispanics) in Pinal County and you don't have much of that in Kanawha. On the swimming in debt comment, not so sure about that....I have 3 McMansions in Pinal County all bought with cash so no debt. Interesting note, in 2000 Kanawha had a higher population than Pinal and now Pinal is more than double the population of Kanawha.
Utah County, UT has no future as such absurd population growth rates that never slow down will lead to poor quality of life there in the future as job growth will have to be as high in percentage terms as a developing world country. Hopefully they will face reality soon.
Utah County, UT has no future as such absurd population growth rates that never slow down will lead to poor quality of life there in the future as job growth will have to be as high in percentage terms as a developing world country.
What the heck are you talking about? Utah County is so clean I cant stand it( lol), is home to Brigham Young University, a burgeoning high tech scene and is attracting lots of young families from Salt Lake County due to all the newer homes for less money.
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