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quality of life: subjective
activities: tie
dining: probably Phoenix
shopping: Phoenix
nightlife: not sure
economy: Baltimore's is a lot more well-rounded, has a higher per capita GDP and higher per capita income levels.
Phoenix wins some categories due to the sheer size difference between the two, but its economy is pretty subpar for its size. I'd take Baltimore pretty easily.
I came here expecting Phoenix to lose. It is winning. I'm actually surprised. Baltimore, from what I've heard of there anyway, tends to be more the stereotypical city that a C-D poster would love. Phoenix is the complete antonym of what a C-D poster loves haha.
I came here expecting Phoenix to lose. It is winning. I'm actually surprised. Baltimore, from what I've heard of there anyway, tends to be more the stereotypical city that a C-D poster would love. Phoenix is the complete antonym of what a C-D poster loves haha.
People on City Data seem to think that Baltimore is full of danger at every turn, or they mention DC, and any thread about Baltimore turns into a DC thread. However, Baltimore is basically a hidden gem on the east coast. The sad thing about city data when it concerns Baltimore is that when it's a positive thread, they ALWAYS mention DC, but when it's a negative (crime, or how dangerous cities are) thread, only then is Baltimore a solo act. People on this site are unaware that Baltimore and DC are both stand alone cities, and that people of Baltimore want nothing to do with associating with DC, and have a very distinct culture separate of one another. As long as I'm on this site, I'm not having it, though. If need be, I'll be the only person praising Baltimore for what it excels at; and yes, as far as the things that it does well, it gives DC and Philly a run for their money on a its bad days.
I came here expecting Phoenix to lose. It is winning. I'm actually surprised. Baltimore, from what I've heard of there anyway, tends to be more the stereotypical city that a C-D poster would love. Phoenix is the complete antonym of what a C-D poster loves haha.
With the sheer numbers of people relocating to Arizona flies right in the face of negative outdated opinions. There is a thread on peoples favorite states and Arizona is VERY well represented.
People on City Data seem to think that Baltimore is full of danger at every turn, or they mention DC, and any thread about Baltimore turns into a DC thread. However, Baltimore is basically a hidden gem on the east coast. The sad thing about city data when it concerns Baltimore is that when it's a positive thread, they ALWAYS mention DC, but when it's a negative (crime, or how dangerous cities are) thread, only then is Baltimore a solo act. People on this site are unaware that Baltimore and DC are both stand alone cities, and that people of Baltimore want nothing to do with associating with DC, and have a very distinct culture separate of one another. As long as I'm on this site, I'm not having it, though. If need be, I'll be the only person praising Baltimore for what it excels at; and yes, as far as the things that it does well, it gives DC and Philly a run for their money on a its bad days.
I know nothing on Baltimore so I won't comment on it. I did vote for Phoenix because it is my hometown, and I probably would prefer living there if it came down to it in comparison. But mainly because it is my hometown. I do have family in Maryland which is something going for that state in my eyes but they are near Atlantic Ocean so not that close to Baltimore at all.
I'm glad that you are standing up for your hometown. I try to do that for Phoenix and Tucson but sometimes it is a lost cause. Stereotypes die hard. I have a similar problem telling out of staters the differences between Tucson and Phoenix. The differences are huge yet they think because it's two hours away it can't be different... Yet it is. Very much so. That would be like comparing Los Angeles to San Diego, or New York City to Philadelphia.
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With the sheer numbers of people relocating to Arizona flies right in the face of negative outdated opinions. There is a thread on peoples favorite states and Arizona is VERY well represented.
I did see that thread and yes Arizona is doing fairly well. I am willing to bet that it's because Arizona is a naturally very beautiful state. We are home to one of the seven wonders of the world, one of the most climatically-diverse states, arguably most unique plant life, beautiful scenery... It adds up. However in the eyes of the CITY-Data forum Arizona is "subpar" when it comes to cities i.e. Phoenix and Tucson. Phoenix is generally hated by this website, which is why I came prepared to stand up for it but saw that I didn't need to to my surprise.
Yes Arizona has been booming for quite some time now. A few decades. Yet no one seems to acknowledge that.
People on City Data seem to think that Baltimore is full of danger at every turn, or they mention DC, and any thread about Baltimore turns into a DC thread. However, Baltimore is basically a hidden gem on the east coast. The sad thing about city data when it concerns Baltimore is that when it's a positive thread, they ALWAYS mention DC, but when it's a negative (crime, or how dangerous cities are) thread, only then is Baltimore a solo act. People on this site are unaware that Baltimore and DC are both stand alone cities, and that people of Baltimore want nothing to do with associating with DC, and have a very distinct culture separate of one another. As long as I'm on this site, I'm not having it, though. If need be, I'll be the only person praising Baltimore for what it excels at; and yes, as far as the things that it does well, it gives DC and Philly a run for their money on a its bad days.
I've never spent any time in Baltimore even though I've flown to BWI on quite a few occasions en route to DC. I would like to check it out someday. What do you recommend as sites to visit (and you must include a place that serves Maryland crab cakes)? The only place I've eaten them in Maryland is at the Bethesda Crab House (sooo good).
I've never spent any time in Baltimore even though I've flown to BWI on quite a few occasions en route to DC. I would like to check it out someday. What do you recommend as sites to visit (and you must include a place that serves Maryland crab cakes)? The only place I've eaten them in Maryland is at the Bethesda Crab House (sooo good).
If you're in to museums there are:
Baltimore museum of Art
Baltimore museum of Industry
Walters Art Gallery
American visionary Art Museum
B&O railroad Museum
Reginald F.Lewis of AA History and Culture
Jewish Museum of MD
Geppi Sports Museum
Historic Ship of Baltimore
Baltimore Streetcar Museum
National Museum of Dentistry
Lacrosse Museum and National Hall of Fame
Those are ONLY some of the museums
Maryland Crab Cake:
My current favorite is a place called Pappa's they have multiple locations in the Baltimore area.
Bars:
Fells Point (neighborhood)
Federal Hill (neighborhood)
Power Plant (bar/club complex)
Mount Vernon (artsy, LGBT and straight, Bars, Clubs)
Station North (bars, very artsy, theatre, clubs, hipster)
Casinos
Horseshoe Casino just across the tracks from the Raven's Stadium and an emerging Party district
Maryland Live
Just south of the city about 10-15 minutes from downtown Baltimore
Harbor East
Clubs, high-end dining, shopping. It sits right between Fells Point, and the Inner Harbor
Little Italy: dining
I know this list is all over the place, but it just gives a brief rundown of thing to do in the downtown area alone. As still missing things from these lists that I can't currently think of. Oh, and most of those areas are connected via the Circulator
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