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View Poll Results: Rate the 2016 census estimates for PCSAs as it pertains to how your PCSA performed
Euphoria 2 3.23%
Excitement 11 17.74%
Satisfaction 14 22.58%
Average 9 14.52%
Disappointment 17 27.42%
Frustration 5 8.06%
Other 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Yes, some really good news. As a matter of fact, of all the large Rustbelt cities, only Cincinnati's and Philadelphia's MSAs grew in size.
I'm iffy on categorizing Philly as a Rustbelt city although it's clearly a recovered post-industrial city.
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Old 03-23-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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This is what is surprising to me. 2016-2017 is apparently the peak in apartment construction, yet population growth has slowed in more than half of major cities.....uh....does that indicate a potential apartment market bust on the horizon?
I hope so.. so the prices can regulate some cities have ridiculous rent amounts. Austin and Denver I know for sure.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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I'm iffy on categorizing Philly as a Rustbelt city although it's clearly a recovered post-industrial city.
Don't list it as a even recovering rust-belt city in the Philly forum. As you probably know? But in virtually all aspects in past declines in and of rust-belt cities totally included as them. Philly clearly suffered the visible signs and a later start at recovery maintains it longer. Through in a more lax then more prominent approach on clearing out earlier blight to gentrification. The visible factors remain more seen in many instances.

Rust-belt is dying term anyway. With a more lasting term used for the Great Lakes region. But Midwest in general. Why Philly posters, at least in the past? Generally pushed their sister Pa city, into the Midwest too.

How I see it. Generalizations go both ways. Visible signs clearly have plagued cities even if technical labels did not officially include them. Like the term - "rust-belt" and using some cities as scapegoats to take heat from them they dislike.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Does anyone have a source for CSA population estimates? I calculated the one I am most interested by myself but I surely have no patience to run through them all. Also, for these estimates, I suppose that they'll use the adjusted 2015 numbers for percentage and absolute growth numbers.

Also, has anyone seen a report about why 2015 numbers were adjusted downward? Every single MSA that I've looked at so far has an adjusted number that is lower than the previously reported number.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: USA
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Considering San Antonio is still ahead of Austin by almost 400k and grows between 2-10k less a year it will take another 30-35 years.
To add to this since 2010 Austin has added 340,116 and San Antonio has added 287,101 new people which is a difference of 53,015.

San Antonio is now at 2,429,609 and Austin is at 2,056,405 which is a difference of 373,204. So if the current growth patterns hold true, which we all know will not, Austin is about 40 years from becoming Texas third largest metropolitan area.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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I'm iffy on categorizing Philly as a Rustbelt city although it's clearly a recovered post-industrial city.
I agree with you, in that Philly may not even be a Rustbelt city. However, I've seen it sometimes listed as such and therefore felt obligated to credit it for its MSA growth.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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Does anyone have a source for CSA population estimates? I calculated the one I am most interested by myself but I surely have no patience to run through them all. Also, for these estimates, I suppose that they'll use the adjusted 2015 numbers for percentage and absolute growth numbers.

Also, has anyone seen a report about why 2015 numbers were adjusted downward? Every single MSA that I've looked at so far has an adjusted number that is lower than the previously reported number.
https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk

Here are the numbers for the 2016 CSA and adjusted 2015 numbers. Atlanta's CSA grew by 99,328. Chicago CSA lost 21k people.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Glad to see Grand Rapids growing.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Exactly how fast do you want Atlanta to be growing? I asked someone from Houston this when they complained Houston wasn't posting 150K or something crazy. Do you not experience growing pains? Is adding as many people as you can the biggest thing that matters? Not judging, just curious.
As someone who has spent the better part of 2 decades in Phoenix, I'd say this is not the biggest thing that matters. Although it is helpful for economic growth and new entertainment.

I was actually quite pleased to see the Phoenix metro refocus it's priorities when the growth slowed down after the 2006ish crash. There was a renewed interest in things like infill development, improving education, investing in public transportation among others. But the budget shortfall this created was nothing short of a disaster and I'll say it's better to have a growing city/expanding budget then not.
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/...xhtml?src=bkmk

Here are the numbers for the 2016 CSA and adjusted 2015 numbers. Atlanta's CSA grew by 99,328. Chicago CSA lost 21k people.
This link doesn't take me to those numbers, just to a main page. From there, I can't find the information. Are you sure that the link is correct?
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