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I can't wait until we see the full data in the morning hours. There must have been widespread adjustments in 2015 population estimates. They said Chicago was the only top 10 metro to LOSE population on the press release, yet if you compare these numbers with the current 2015, NY and LA posted losses. These numbers just don't look right to me.
It is just the dramatic timing of the supposed slowdown for everywhere that makes little sense. You'd think with the economy in expansion mode in the vast majority of America, probably the best it has ever been this decade in America, and these end up being the results.
Honestly, not good at all. You know it isn't good when you look at boomtowns, the ones that lead the country, and shake your head in disappointment. That's how I feel, at least.
These are mediocre numbers, mediocre. Kudos to Seattle for going up some this year, seems to be the only place that made any lateral shift this go around. Though we'll get revised and updated information in some hours or so.
I'm going to make some completely unscientific (and probably wrong) predictions for South Carolina counties.
State growth, by year:
2010-2011: +37,000
2011-2012: +48,000
2012-2013: +47,000
2013-2014: +61,000
2014-2015: +66,000
2015-2016: +67,000
Upward trend is clearly resuming since the recession, but 2016 posted pretty much the same growth rate as 2015.
So... I'm going to play it safe and say that the growth went to mostly the same areas as it did last year, with a little less to the Midlands. Even if my estimates are just a little high it'll be big for the Upstate with Greenville crossing 500k and Spartanburg crossing 300k.
Greenville County 498,766 (seemed like growth had accelerated, but it was actually lower than last year. Like Atlanta). Oh well 500k in 2017 for sure
Richland County 409,549 (projected lower growth due to the floods, but I didn't quite go low enough)
Charleston County 396,484
Horry County 322,342 (of course all the growth has to go to MB of all places)
Spartanburg County 301,463 (hey, close enough)
Lexington County 286,196
York County 258,526 (growth has sped up by a bit more than I predicted)
Anderson County 196,569
Also suburban Berkeley county (new population around 211k) managed to add more than any other county in the state besides Horry, including Greenville and Charleston
It is just the dramatic timing of the supposed slowdown for everywhere that makes little sense. You'd think with the economy in expansion mode in the vast majority of America, probably the best it has ever been this decade in America, and these end up being the results.
Honestly, not good at all. You know it isn't good when you look at boomtowns, the ones that lead the country, and shake your head in disappointment. That's how I feel, at least.
These are mediocre numbers, mediocre. Kudos to Seattle for going up some this year, seems to be the only place that made any lateral shift this go around. Though we'll get revised and updated information in some hours or so.
We noted back with the state population estimates that there was a slowdown to immigration. I remember you commenting saying both the state and country growth was dissapointing. Trump will likely slow down immigration even more so yeah....growth could continue to slow.
We have to remember though that we aren't China. China for example has a huge sleeping rural population to flood it's cities with. 86% of America already live in metro areas so growth has to come in the form of immigration or taking residents from another metro area lol.
-DFW extends its lead over Houston, for once.
-San Antonio, like Orlando, grows past Portland, Oregon, which I had thought was booming.
-Austin surpasses Cleveland and Columbus, both Ohio.
-Hidalgo County, Texas, has surpassed Oxnard, California.
-El Paso continues to barely grow.
-Corpus Christi manages to drop in ranking, behind Reno, Nevada.
My thoughts exactly. Although the population numbers for alot of cities on here seemed skewed. I highly doubt alot of places are losing population. Especially NYC and LA. I can see Houston declined last year because of oil prices, but DFW?
We have to remember though that we aren't China. China for example has a huge sleeping rural population to flood it's cities with. 86% of America already live in metro areas so growth has to come in the form of immigration or taking residents from another metro area lol.
Yeah, exactly. Immigration is key to keeping America's population at replacement level and younger in general.
The reason you outlined, that is why the Chinese cities will continue to post otherworldly raw numerical population growth for decades to come (migration from rural areas to the urban cities will see 500 million Chinese make the shift in the next 30 years), even though the actual country of China as a whole begins its population decline. China is only about 20 years away from seeing Japanization in full effect nationwide.
My thoughts exactly. Although the population numbers for alot of cities on here seemed skewed. I highly doubt alot of places are losing population. Especially NYC and LA. I can see Houston declined last year because of oil prices, but DFW?
DFW seems to be following the national trend of slowing growth. Though, it may not be helping that home prices are shotting up.
Greenville County 498,766 (seemed like growth had accelerated, but it was actually lower than last year. Like Atlanta). Oh well 500k in 2017 for sure [....]
Good call with your estimates. Yeah I thought there was more of a boom going on too in all the metros, but oh well. The state is growing and that's what matters.
Yeah, exactly. Immigration is key to keeping America's population at replacement level and younger in general.
There is really no point when the average American is making what their parents did 20 years ago. Bring in as many immigrants as you want but the problem will still be the same - low paying jobs and high COL. In fact, when I lived out west, owners would fire the American employees and hire the immigrants because they would take even less pay. If American couples could afford kids, then they would have them.
So yeah, they did adjust numbers. Atlanta number's from 2015-2016 is better at 90k, but still fairly dissapointing.
Phoenix is now growing faster than Atlanta. Atlanta is no longer the big 3 with Dallas and Houston. Seattle is officially a top 5 metro in absolute population growth. Wowzers.
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