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View Poll Results: Rate the 2016 census estimates for PCSAs as it pertains to how your PCSA performed
Euphoria 2 3.23%
Excitement 11 17.74%
Satisfaction 14 22.58%
Average 9 14.52%
Disappointment 17 27.42%
Frustration 5 8.06%
Other 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-22-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX and wherever planes fly
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Surprisingly, Houston has been growing faster than DFW as of now, in-both percentage and raw figures. It's closing the gap. I'm not sure how 2016 is going to be.

Gas/Energy remaining low much of last year might have slowed down Houston a bit. A lot of people with company relocation's moved to Dallas last year Toyota, Liberty Mutual to name a few. In a few hours we shall see.
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Old 03-22-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This will be the third year in a row that I will reactivate these two threads to update them with the latest information:


1) http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...-6th-spot.html


2) http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-...10th-spot.html


Waiting for magic to happen.
As far as #10, if borders dont change clearly Phoenix has thenmomentum. Im shocked at how much the Inland Empire has slowed down.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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I know I am ashamed that I actually considered taking the day off lol.
Are you also ashamed that this comes as no surprise to me?
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Are you also ashamed that this comes as no surprise to me?
I just want my Ancestry.com results to come in after waiting for two months! I swear that if they come on the same day as the new population estimates, my head might explode.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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This is a thread that I have been waiting on. I am curious about the mid level metros (1-3 million). It seems the Raleigh MSA is still growing at breakneck speed. Durham is no slouch either. Much of the growth in the Charlotte area is mainly in Mecklenburg (where Charlotte is located) although York, Cabarrus, and Union have been growing at decent rates. I wonder how the population in Charlotte will compare to Tampa, Orlando, Austin, San Antonio, Sacramento, among some others in this class.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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We've gained three major metros since the census. I do wonder how many more will make the [completely symbolic and otherwise meaningless] jump by 2020.

Also, looking it up, I was surprised to learn that Indiana polos isn't very big. I guess I tend to overestimating all the Midwestern cities.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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We've gained three major metros since the census. I do wonder how many more will make the [completely symbolic and otherwise meaningless] jump by 2020.

Also, looking it up, I was surprised to learn that Indiana polos isn't very big. I guess I tend to overestimating all the Midwestern cities.
Major metros meaning????
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Expectations for Pittsburgh MSA don't look the greatest due to the general decline of Pennsylvania. I'm going to hope for a wash this year, so here's my guesstimate.

Pittsburgh MSA - 2,354,000 (2,353,045 +955)
Allegheny County - 1,235,000 (1,230,459 +4,541) (ONLY CORE METRO)
Westmoreland County - 355,000 (357,956 -2,956)
Washington County - 209,000 (208,261 +739)
Butler County - 190,000 (185,382 +4,618)
Beaver County - 168,000 (168,871 -871)
Fayette County - 131,000 (133,628 -2,628)
Armstrong County - 66,000 (67,052 -1,052)


As most of the people on this site know, the Pittsburgh MSA has stopped bleeding in population, but has not fully reversed its population loss. The 2010 census had Pittsburgh at approximately 2,356,000 has lost approximately 3,000 people since. However, the core county of Allegheny has actually gained nearly 10,000 people since the 2010 census. Rural Western PA continues this high rate of population bleeding, particularly in FAYETTE & ARMSTRONG Counties. These counties, honestly, should not be part of the Pittsburgh MSA. They don't even have ANY suburban areas that are connected to the Pittsburgh Urban Area. Just due to their rural nature, they have very few jobs and many commute near ~75 miles in one direction into the Pittsburgh area for work and thus reach the threshold for an MSA county.

If these counties were removed from the MSA (obviously the metro would be slightly smaller), but the population change from 2010 to 2015 would be +2,673, not -3,240. . Most of the metro is growing now, albeit at a slow rate, but this "negative" growth from the rural bleeding is getting annoying at this rate.

I'm extremely excited for Shell to open its new Ethane Cracker Plant in Beaver County in 2023 - it will completely change that region. Hopefully another county that will start helping our MSA numbers, instead of hindering them.

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Old 03-22-2017, 02:20 PM
 
Location: TPA
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Much of the growth in the Charlotte area is mainly in Mecklenburg (where Charlotte is located) although York, Cabarrus, and Union have been growing at decent rates. I wonder how the population in Charlotte will compare to Tampa, Orlando, Austin, San Antonio, Sacramento, among some others in this class.
Are you talking in terms of how many people each is adding? Because percentage wise, York, Cabarrus, Lancaster, and Union are growing blazing fast. From '10 to 15, Mecklenburg grew 12.44%. York 11.11%. All 5 counties were over 10%.

I too am ready to see Charlotte's numbers though.
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Major metros meaning????
Oh sorry, two million metro population. I remember reading that to be a sort of cut off point in numerous pieces, though cannot remember where.
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