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View Poll Results: Rate the 2016 census estimates for PCSAs as it pertains to how your PCSA performed
Euphoria 2 3.23%
Excitement 11 17.74%
Satisfaction 14 22.58%
Average 9 14.52%
Disappointment 17 27.42%
Frustration 5 8.06%
Other 4 6.45%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-23-2017, 03:14 PM
 
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This is true of most legacy cities. Domestic outflow of these places has been around for decades. Most of these places rely on internation migration to keep numbers rising. I'm wondering if the political climate during the election cycle slowed migration. It would better explain the downward trend in Detroit's increases, and also possibly explain the reverse flow in both Milwaukee and St. Louis. Both of which are historically reliable as slow and steady gainers. This trend is present in other metro's like Philly which saw slower gains, and Pittsburgh which saw an uncharacteristic acceleration in it's negative numbers.
I wouldn't call it unusual, but it seems higher than past years. Net domestic migration out of the city from 2010-2016 was -524,013, which would give a yearly average of -87,336, which is well below what the city lost this year.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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This article from Bloomberg back in January summed up what's going on in Chicago rather well. Here's a quick excerpt:

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The news out of Chicago hasn't been great lately! There were 780 homicides in the city in 2016, up from 468 the year before. The city's public-employee pension funds are in deep, deep trouble. The Chicago metropolitan area shrank by an estimated 6,263 people in 2015 -- the biggest population loss of any metro area in the nation.

It all sounds like a city in a downward spiral. But have you been to Chicago lately? I was there last week, working out of the Bloomberg bureau downtown, attending a conference nearby, and visiting people in neighborhoods to the north and northwest. Even in the chill of early January, the city seemed as vibrant as I've ever seen it. When I tried this observation out on Alden Loury, director of research and evaluation at Chicago's Metropolitan Planning Council, he agreed: "In the central business district and the residential areas near it, I don't know that there's been a more prosperous time in decades."

Loury gets around a lot more than an expense-account visitor, though, and added this: "If you hop on the train and go a few stops to the south or west, you see a very different story." What you see are vast expanses of poor, crime-ridden, depopulating neighborhoods. And the trouble doesn't really end at the city line. The northern suburbs along Lake Michigan -- you know, where John Hughes set his movies -- are more affluent than ever, and there are pockets of wealth to the west of the city. But overall, Chicago's suburbs aren't doing great.

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In short, the central and northern part of Chicago seems to have succeeded in establishing itself as a global city beloved by the creative class, while the rest of the city struggles and the rest of the metro area just plods along. "It's hard to say where the city is going to go," said Paral. "You could get pessimistic, or you could get optimistic." You'd have to think this can't last: Either the central city's success will pull the rest of the area out of its funk, or the rest of the area's problems will drag the central city down. But Paral told me the city has seemed to be on the cusp of either a renaissance or a collapse for decades now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ght-in-chicago
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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I wouldn't call it unusual, but it seems higher than past years. Net domestic migration out of the city from 2010-2016 was -524,013, which would give a yearly average of -87,336, which is well below what the city lost this year.
What city are you referring to? NYC?
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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What city are you referring to? NYC?

Yes
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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This article from Bloomberg back in January summed up what's going on in Chicago rather well. Here's a quick excerpt:
don't worry, I think most of us understand.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
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One interesting/depressing thing I noticed is that the 4 million person Inland Empire MSA has grown by more total people than the 14 million person LA/OC MSA.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: TPA
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One interesting/depressing thing I noticed is that the 4 million person Inland Empire MSA has grown by more total people than the 14 million person LA/OC MSA.
Are jobs going over there too or is everyone still commuting to LA? Inland Empire has a pretty low GDP for it's population, which I guess is understandable.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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Are jobs going over there too or is everyone still commuting to LA? Inland Empire has a pretty low GDP for it's population, which I guess is understandable.
Jobs must be going there. Otherwise commuting patterns wouldn't have allowed for it to be statistically turned into the fake metro area it is today.
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'm surprised to see Denver slow down so much. There is this impression around here that our migration numbers increase every year. But I guess not...unless it's just a matter of more people moving out than in.

2016 - +44,261
2015 - +56,383
2014 - +54,308

Metro:
2016 - +57,682
2015 - +70,807
2014 - +63,206
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Old 03-23-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Talking The Villages Florida fastest growing MSA in USA for FOURTH year in a row!

And that does not even include 2 of the 3 counties The Villages are actually in.

1st in growth
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