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View Poll Results: In which city is "water" most ingrained in its culture?
Boston 30 7.92%
Los Angeles 14 3.69%
Miami 178 46.97%
New Orleans 26 6.86%
San Francisco 7 1.85%
Seattle 79 20.84%
Other 45 11.87%
Voters: 379. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-04-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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It was just a response to those who are saying Seattle doesn't have a beach culture. The many ways in which Seattle has water ingrained into its fabric and culture have been listed already. Clearly, classic beach culture is not one of Seattle's strengths when looking at this topic, and is way down the list. But my point is that it is there if you want it during the warm months.
I'm surprised nobody noted there's hardly anyone in the water in the pictures you posted. But yes, the classical beach scene/culture that everyone thinks of isn't that strong for Seattle. Though there are good number of Seattleites that are used to cold water and actually do swim in the waters of Puget Sound, it's apparently too cold for everyone else.

One of my favorite local commercials was the Pemco's Goosebumped Beach Bum, which to me is the quintessential PNW:

https://youtu.be/1XBOorGPE-Q

(For a lot of people, this sort of thing would be a no-go though. They would feel exactly like the girl in the commercial.)
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:55 AM
 
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It was just a response to those who are saying Seattle doesn't have a beach culture. The many ways in which Seattle has water ingrained into its fabric and culture have been listed already. Clearly, classic beach culture is not one of Seattle's strengths when looking at this topic, and is way down the list. But my point is that it is there if you want it during the warm months.

Also, I compared it to the Bay Area because I lived there for a long time. I'm very familiar with Santa Cruz but I don't consider that the Bay Area and it's a pretty far trek from SF/Oak to Santa Cruz. With Seattle you've got beaches on the sound (Alki, Golden Gardens) and several on the lake (Madison Park, etc.) within city limits that are very nice in the summer. Ocean and Baker are nice but very far from being classic beaches even in the summer. Half Moon Bay is a cool town and has gorgeous rocky beaches but again nothing like the classic feel of a developed beachfront area like Alki in Seattle (with the beachfront restaurants, promenade, volleyball tournaments, etc.)
Sure but it seems pretty limited as you noted and that is partly why Miami is such a clear "winner" here.

It is part of the SF Bay Area CSA as people do commute from Santa Cruz to Silicon Valley for jobs but yeah it's a trek and day trip for most people in the region. I was curious what temp Lake Washington got during summer and it said 70, so if that is the case then yeah Seattle probably beats the Bay Area as far as beaches to swim at in the metro area.
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Old 06-05-2017, 01:00 AM
 
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I'm surprised nobody noted there's hardly anyone in the water in the pictures you posted. But yes, the classical beach scene/culture that everyone thinks of isn't that strong for Seattle. Though there are good number of Seattleites that are used to cold water and actually do swim in the waters of Puget Sound, it's apparently too cold for everyone else.

One of my favorite local commercials was the Pemco's Goosebumped Beach Bum, which to me is the quintessential PNW:

https://youtu.be/1XBOorGPE-Q

(For a lot of people, this sort of thing would be a no-go though. They would feel exactly like the girl in the commercial.)
I did notice that too actually, just didn't think it was worth pointing out considering it was being compared to the Bay Area. You see people in the water in Santa Cruz but it's still too cold for your average person and only works for kids and adults with a cold water tolerance.

That commercial is what most of coastline along the Bay Area/Northern CA is like too except for Santa Cruz which is sunny and warmer than the rest of the coast because it faces south.
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Old 06-06-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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I think the biggest things against Seattle is that it lacks a traditional/stereotypical beach culture, the water never gets warm/swimmable, and the gloomy weather for a good chunk of the year. Given its climate/location it is rather impressive the ingrained water culture it does have though.
Seattle people do not swim at the saltwater beaches for sure. That's something Miami has way over Seattle.
I do know "Seattle has more pleasure boats per capita than anywhere else in the U.S."
Boat Launch Fees - Parks | seattle.gov


And Seattle has the longest floating bridge in the world (two of them) plus
"The World's First Floating Light Rail" is being built.
https://www.citylab.com/transportati...ington/526368/


....all that water everywhere in Seattle.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Sure but it seems pretty limited as you noted and that is partly why Miami is such a clear "winner" here.

It is part of the SF Bay Area CSA as people do commute from Santa Cruz to Silicon Valley for jobs but yeah it's a trek and day trip for most people in the region. I was curious what temp Lake Washington got during summer and it said 70, so if that is the case then yeah Seattle probably beats the Bay Area as far as beaches to swim at in the metro area.
Miami is the clear winner in terms of swimmable beaches, yes, but that's only one of many categories related to water being ingrained into a city's culture, and Seattle is very strong on many of the other categories.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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I'm surprised nobody noted there's hardly anyone in the water in the pictures you posted. But yes, the classical beach scene/culture that everyone thinks of isn't that strong for Seattle. Though there are good number of Seattleites that are used to cold water and actually do swim in the waters of Puget Sound, it's apparently too cold for everyone else.

One of my favorite local commercials was the Pemco's Goosebumped Beach Bum, which to me is the quintessential PNW:

https://youtu.be/1XBOorGPE-Q

(For a lot of people, this sort of thing would be a no-go though. They would feel exactly like the girl in the commercial.)
Ok, but that scene in the commercial is in a remote rocky beach likely well outside of the Puget Sound Region. Alki Beach, Golden Gardens, and several of the Lake Washington beaches (all within Seattle city limits) have much more of a classic beach feel during the (admittedly limited) warmer months, especially Alki.

But again, swimmable beaches is only one of many categories related to a city's water culture. Of course Miami is much stronger there, but Seattle's beach scene is better than most people assume.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:49 PM
 
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Seattle people do not swim at the saltwater beaches for sure. That's something Miami has way over Seattle.
I do know "Seattle has more pleasure boats per capita than anywhere else in the U.S."
Boat Launch Fees - Parks | seattle.gov


And Seattle has the longest floating bridge in the world (two of them) plus
"The World's First Floating Light Rail" is being built.
https://www.citylab.com/transportati...ington/526368/


....all that water everywhere in Seattle.
Don't forget Seattle Seafair every summer:


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/py8snZ9uhVs/hqdefault.jpg


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...15a1de3cd3.jpg


http://seattle.findwell.com/wp-conte...ne-550x367.jpg


http://www.seattlesouthside.com/syst...jpg?1442548648
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Ok, but that scene in the commercial is in a remote rocky beach likely well outside of the Puget Sound Region. Alki Beach, Golden Gardens, and several of the Lake Washington beaches (all within Seattle city limits) have much more of a classic beach feel during the (admittedly limited) warmer months, especially Alki.

But again, swimmable beaches is only one of many categories related to a city's water culture. Of course Miami is much stronger there, but Seattle's beach scene is better than most people assume.
Yes .... but Miami still to has a HUGE Port and a Premier International Resort of the world in Miami Beach and the beachfront of Miami proper.

Too much to beat in quality and quantity here.

Even Chicago on a Huge Lake can boast beaches and Boast Parties right downtown in harbors too. But Miami has that HIGHER ECHELON to beat.

Even Chicago has them boat parties coming up....
and its lakefront of Harbors and beaches in summer.

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Old 06-06-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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^^^ Chicago Boat Party 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nh829PX2gw
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Miami is the clear winner in terms of swimmable beaches, yes, but that's only one of many categories related to water being ingrained into a city's culture, and Seattle is very strong on many of the other categories.
So is Miami, Seattle doesn't really have an advantage in any category I can think of.
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