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If I took the time to find that thread.... going back many many months? You argued the point till a poster put up a street-view. Really irreverent, but I remember the argument. As for podium-style. If done right they work fine in cities where it still isn't price prohibitive to use for a garage in a apt/condo high-rise.
Again, you're making stuff up. I never made such a claim, and it has nothing to do with anything.
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Again, I should not need to pst street-views f some done right.
Agreed, please don't post useless pics, when we already know parking garages are horrible for street level vibrancy.
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You do realize .... tenements many times became sardine packed slums for immigrants back in the day.
OK? Tenements haven't been "sardine packed slums for immigrants" in 100 years. Has nothing to do with anything in 2018.
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Some people are not fond of highest density living.
That's great. Then they don't like big city urban living.
Give me the urban type anyday. Parking podiums suck even if they're tarted up or hidden. An urban city has less parking, and you look up and see windows and activity not storage or blank walls.
Seattle's earning its place in tier 2 downtowns with an astonishing growth rate...any two-year increment makes it substantially better, particularly since 2010. We're building better parking ratios than most, with new towers having way fewer parking spaces than housing units, and office towers in the very core getting down to rates like 15-20% spaces vs. workers. (And something like 1/4 of Amazon HQ1 workers drive alone including buildings a little further from the old CBD, word to the wise.) However we have weaknesses, like many streets being too wide since Seattle's hourglass shape funnels traffic through the CBD.
Give me the urban type anyday. Parking podiums suck even if they're tarted up or hidden. An urban city has less parking, and you look up and see windows and activity not storage or blank walls.
Seattle's earning its place in tier 2 downtowns with an astonishing growth rate...any two-year increment makes it substantially better, particularly since 2010. We're building better parking ratios than most, with new towers having way fewer parking spaces than housing units, and office towers in the very core getting down to rates like 15-20% spaces vs. workers. (And something like 1/4 of Amazon HQ1 workers drive alone including buildings a little further from the old CBD, word to the wise.) However we have weaknesses, like many streets being too wide since Seattle's hourglass shape funnels traffic through the CBD.
I'm sure you were to Chicago that is for American cities seen as urban (no not in NYC's tier so no one needs to add that). Well Chicago has a core of high-rises that most built the last 30 years or more .... as podium-style high-rise living. Early versions were poor street-level. Later ones clearly are improved in street-side eateries, coffee shops to grocery stores. They can be done right. Also like Seattle.... Chicago also is getting more urban despite lost housing from racial strife and blight on its troubled areas.
Do I believe podium-style high-rises are the best urban form? No .... bit neither are tenements. To some row-housing to tenement-style are the true urban form being connected for full blocks. Well not the only of best for most Americans today.
For sunbelt cities transforming to mere high-rise and urban living (American urban). I'd rather a garage on the bottom of the high-rise then a separate garage next door. Houston has new ones with separated garages even killing intersections I've see and I've seen the worst podium-style too there.
But still a better option is the podium-style IMO...... over building a separate garage like they are doing.
A blend of old and new with still street-level offerings in the new with long established offerings still street-level in the old. Those living in a podium still have the LUXURY of a car to use for pleasure travel outside the city and other options in the building many times. So they get the best of both world's in the cities top attributes around them and their own gym to dry cleaners convenient to them and their Bentley to Tesla.... its own condo too.
Toronto forced high-rises to paces garages underground. But it doesn't mean it offers more street-level. For Chicago it has its city underground garages for nearly 2000 cars and embraced the podium high-rise. Seems to work for it.
Another nice one.... you'd never know till you see the entrance ramp with older buildings it too. Maybe to some a bit fake... but I like it. Color, dimension, texture and style to me.
Are you trying to suggest D.C. is not a real city?
Skyscrapers aren't the defining criteria for what makes a "real city" (yes it is part of it and happens to be #2 on the OP's personal criteria). Is Dublin not a real city? What about Rome or Copenhagen or Lisbon? They seemed like large bustling metropolises when I visited them. Most of them had more vibrancy and life than a majority of the cities listed already. They all lack height as well, but more than make up for it with the other criteria listed. D.C. is the same way.
No offense but DC is nothing like the cities you listed in comparison. DC, for most of its downtown, is a soulless office park. You can’t even get a decent slice of pizza!
Why they wiped out all that awesome 19th century architecture is far beyond me.
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No offense but DC is nothing like the cities you listed in comparison. DC, for most of its downtown, is a soulless office park. You can’t even get a decent slice of pizza!
Why they wiped out all that awesome 19th century architecture is far beyond me.
This is definitely not true. DC is a Top 6 downtown. Putting aside NYC, it's roughly equal to Chicago, SF, Philly and Boston.
You don't have good random odds of getting a decent slice of pizza really anywhere outside of Naples and NYC's outer boroughs. I don't see what this has to do with anything.
This is definitely not true. DC is a Top 6 downtown. Putting aside NYC, it's roughly equal to Chicago, SF, Philly and Boston.
You don't have good random odds of getting a decent slice of pizza really anywhere outside of Naples and NYC's outer boroughs. I don't see what this has to do with anything.
God stop with the Pizza. Boston, Providence, New Haven on average have just as good Pizza, Bagels too.
However the quantity of NYC is underrated it's not bigger than Boston or San Francisco is WAY BIGGER, but the qaulity is overrated.
This is definitely not true. DC is a Top 6 downtown. Putting aside NYC, it's roughly equal to Chicago, SF, Philly and Boston.
You don't have good random odds of getting a decent slice of pizza really anywhere outside of Naples and NYC's outer boroughs. I don't see what this has to do with anything.
Lol false. Philly offers pizza is just as good or arguably even better than NYC.
No offense but DC is nothing like the cities you listed in comparison. DC, for most of its downtown, is a soulless office park. You can’t even get a decent slice of pizza!
Why they wiped out all that awesome 19th century architecture is far beyond me.
This notion is so outdated. When was the last time you were in DC? When you visited downtown DC, which downtown neighborhoods did you visit? Penn Quarter? Mt. Vernon Triangle? Gallery Place/City Center? Logan Circle? DuPont Circle? Foggy Bottom? Golden Triangle? Midtown? NOMA/Union Market? or Eastend Union Station? Only Midtown and Golden Triangle are office parks and Golden Triangle has some of the busiest nightlife in DC on Friday and Saturday nights.
As for pizza, did you try Wise Guys Pizza in Mt. Vernon Triangle? I have never met anybody who didn’t like it.
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Well not the only of best for most Americans today. 
