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Old 07-10-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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The idea that 2.3% of those who use a substance - including alcohol - do cocaine at least once annually seems believable.
I was about to say... I thought that number would be higher than that.
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Boston lol
It's more of a "what % of the city is outer neighborhoods" which is why Boston, Seattle, DC, SF and Miami do well because they don't have vast tracts of suburban land like most cities (even like NE Philly or Staten Island) If you added Somerville, Brookline etc to Boston it would drop
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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Are these figures for the metro areas?
Something about these numbers seems way off. 532 per 100,000 in the CITY of Miami? I highly doubt Miami proper has over 3,000 venues,
It's very believable - Brickell, downtown, coconut grove, wynwood, edgewater, have a lot of nightlife venues.
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's very believable - Brickell, downtown, coconut grove, wynwood, edgewater, have a lot of nightlife venues.
Also Little Havana where some cafeterias become bars after hours with Latin music until 5 AM but I'm assuming they are including other cities in the metro hence the pic of South Beach in the linked article.
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Old 07-10-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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They need juuust enough basis to make the gullible say "they had a method."
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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They need juuust enough basis to make the gullible say "they had a method."
What would your method be?
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:45 PM
 
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Are these figures for the metro areas?
Something about these numbers seems way off. 532 per 100,000 in the CITY of Miami? I highly doubt Miami proper has over 3,000 venues, as there really isn't much in terms of nightlife there, and it is VERY small. If they're including South Beach, perhaps, but then again, which population figure are they using? City of Miami (600,000) or Miami MSA, which includes South Beach, but also West Palm, etc. (6,000,000 people?)

Either way, that number makes no sense: 532 per 100,000 means there are over 30,000 nightlife venues in the Miami MSA.

Something tells me they used the relatively low City of Miami population figure and included all of the venues in neighboring South Beach to achieve that number.
The photo they used to illustrate "Miami" was taken in South Beach (i.e., in the city of Miami Beach), so maybe the editors don't know the dif between the two.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:53 PM
 
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So this list is saying DC, Denver, Seattle, Philadelphia, and Boston are harder partying than Las Vegas? Right.
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Old 07-10-2018, 10:59 PM
 
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What would your method be?
Step one would be realizing there's no easy answer.

Step two would be realizing that not having a cohesive plan myself doens't mean criticism of another plan is out of bounds. Ever hear of scientific method? Or basic skepticism so you don't fall sucker to every clickbait article you read? Or journalistic integrity?

A good plan would involve more than just blunt, misunderstood numbers. Already in this thread people have identified some keys. For example a generic population figure will be misleading until you provide and test out some factor for the value of a different resident and visitor populations in your city (age cohorts for staters, and counting visitors in the denominator). Another is some coherent idea of what counts as "partying", some factor for counting drug use by purpose (medical?) and for what percentage of the total is being counted (less than 100%, so the question is how to at least make a decent guess)...

In other words, act like it's not just clickbait.
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:08 AM
 
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Step one would be realizing there's no easy answer.

Step two would be realizing that not having a cohesive plan myself doens't mean criticism of another plan is out of bounds. Ever hear of scientific method? Or basic skepticism so you don't fall sucker to every clickbait article you read? Or journalistic integrity?

A good plan would involve more than just blunt, misunderstood numbers. Already in this thread people have identified some keys. For example a generic population figure will be misleading until you provide and test out some factor for the value of a different resident and visitor populations in your city (age cohorts for staters, and counting visitors in the denominator). Another is some coherent idea of what counts as "partying", some factor for counting drug use by purpose (medical?) and for what percentage of the total is being counted (less than 100%, so the question is how to at least make a decent guess)...

In other words, act like it's not just clickbait.
No need to be condescending. I have a Master Degree and never said anything about the article's credibility. I just was curious about what your method would be since you ridiculed the article.
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