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Salt Lake City and Jacksonville are already off to the races imo. The others are just not going to boom over the next decade.
Any cities now that will boom like Atlanta, Orlando, Phoenix etc. did in their hey day? None really. Our current boomlet metros will continue though.
Like Nashville, Austin, Boise and others.
Comparing Nashville and Boise to Austin is not indicative of how big Austin is. Look at the population of those towns, and Charlotte and Raleigh and Austin's growth far outpaces them all. Austin, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh 25 years ago were comparable in population size. Austin has surpassed them and may actually cross 1 million residents for the 2020 census. Considering that there are three other cities in Texas with over 1 million residents and a fourth at 900,000, that's quite an accomplishment.
How many of those have officially secured financing and how many have actually begun construction?
About a quarter of these have started construction. The tallest tower to start construction is the 35-story Walter in January. 20 story Advance Auto HQ tower will be done this year. The first of the 3 towers of the Raleigh Crossing Project is 25% done, the other towers are expected to start at the end of the year. Smoky Hollow I&II will be done this year http://www.kanerealtycorp.com/projec...ollow-project/. Smoky Hollow III tower will be officially unveiled once the other two phases are completed. Expect Smoky Hollow III to be 30-to-40 stories as they fought hard for 40 story zoning. The Midtown Exchange is currently land clearing and has begun construction. Downtown South Soccer project will be a slow burner they've currently secured 60% of the land and will purchase the rest soon--however there's some issues with city support since the Coronavirus has tanked sales taxes income but who knows.
I also mainly listed the 20+ floor projects, there's hundreds of sub-20 story projects all over Raleigh/Durham transforming the region and are arguably more important to urbanization than one-off skyscrapers. Projects like Bloc 83 https://bloc83raleigh.com/ (75% finished) and the Willard Hotel (started construction in April) will connect Raleigh's party street/district of Glenwood South with Raleigh's emerging Warehouse District where the brand new Raleigh Union Station is expected start construction on the Raleigh Union Station Bus Station/Tower complex sometime this year or next or Raleigh loses federal transportation grant money.
I'm also just listing Raleigh city limit projects. For every 12-story residential complex built in Raleigh, Cary-Apex-Morrisville-RTP-South Durham-Durham corridor builds 15 similar projects.
This makes no sense. If Raleigh got this far with no branding at all (according to you), then why would that all of a sudden hinder the rapid growth the region has been experiencing for decades now? There are plenty of cities with much better branding that aren't growing nearly as fast, if at all, and others with very little to no branding that are growing and booming and have been for a while. Also Raleigh offers more besides affordability; it's also quite safe, has good public schools, and a collection of great colleges and universities. Most of those things sound very ho-hum and boring for folks without families that include school-age children, but for those families, they mean a whole lot which is why they have been voting with their feet for at least 30 years now.
I'd disagree with you on the branding thing though. Raleigh is the largest city and oftentimes serves as the face of the larger Triangle region which is pretty well-known for its universities, RTP, tech/healthcare, and a great place to do business. It's fine that Raleigh doesn't do it for you, but obviously everyone doesn't have your preferences. I will NEVER understand why some people can't wrap their heads around this.
Because people chase jobs. Raleigh has jobs because it's corporate to its core, not because it's a city of character.
In a "work from anywhere" world, who would choose Raleigh? I see far more downside than upside.
Chapel Hill and Durham have far more of an identity. Raleigh struggles to attract major league teams for this reason. What would they name it? The Raleigh North Carolinians? I can't even think of a single attraction in Raleigh. Only Indianapolis rivals it for non-descript meh-ness.
Because people chase jobs. Raleigh has jobs because it's corporate to its core, not because it's a city of character.
In a "work from anywhere" world, who would choose Raleigh? I see far more downside than upside.
Chapel Hill and Durham have far more of an identity. Raleigh struggles to attract major league teams for this reason. What would they name it? The Raleigh North Carolinians? I can't even think of a single attraction in Raleigh. Only Indianapolis rivals it for non-descript meh-ness.
The NFL and NBA are down the road in Charlotte.... the NHL is already in Raleigh..... the only other major league out there is MLB.... and last time I checked... they havent expanded since 1998. So you are saying that if Raleigh had more of an identity... then the NBA, NFL, and MLB would be itching to expand there?
Because people chase jobs. Raleigh has jobs because it's corporate to its core, not because it's a city of character.
Jobs are why cities have always grown historically. And you may find this hard to believe, but not everyone cares about being in a "city of character." And Raleigh isn't all that "corporate;" RTP is the major jobs engine for the region along with state government and NC State. You may be getting Raleigh confused with Charlotte.
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In a "work from anywhere" world, who would choose Raleigh? I see far more downside than upside.
We're not in a "work from anywhere" world though. Surely that will be more common in a post-COVID world, but not everything can be done from home (or wherever) all the time. Healthcare and biotech require being on a site.
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Chapel Hill and Durham have far more of an identity. Raleigh struggles to attract major league teams for this reason. What would they name it? The Raleigh North Carolinians? I can't even think of a single attraction in Raleigh. Only Indianapolis rivals it for non-descript meh-ness.
Oh please; major league teams don't care about "identity," they care about numbers. A big reason why Raleigh doesn't have as many major league teams is because college sports rule the day there. It's pretty much the same for Austin which has more of an identity.
If places with a so-called lack of identity struggle to land major league teams and Indianapolis rivals it in that area, why does it have the NFL, NBA, and is big in motorsports?
And the NHL team based in Raleigh is the Carolina Hurricanes.
Sorry, but Raleigh is going to keep growing whether you like it or not. Try not to take it so personally, mmkay?
The NFL and NBA are down the road in Charlotte.... the NHL is already in Raleigh..... the only other major league out there is MLB.... and last time I checked... they havent expanded since 1998. So you are saying that if Raleigh had more of an identity... then the NBA, NFL, and MLB would be itching to expand there?
You see Raleigh is so 'corporate', even though it lacks major corporations, that in order to make it less 'corporate' it needs more corporation-loving pro sports culture.
The NFL and NBA are down the road in Charlotte.... the NHL is already in Raleigh..... the only other major league out there is MLB.... and last time I checked... they havent expanded since 1998. So you are saying that if Raleigh had more of an identity... then the NBA, NFL, and MLB would be itching to expand there?
Charlotte isn't Raleigh and you ignore the fact that Raleigh competed against Charlotte for all of those teams and lost. The most recent loss being MLS, which chose Charlotte just a few months back.
For all the Raleigh boosterism, there's no buzz about the city at all. I don't know how a city can grow to 2 million and be so devoid of a local identity.
No need to make stuff up about the city's past when most cities have been stagnant or experienced population loss at some point since 1950.
Louisville didn't merge with it's county for official stats. The official census stats are based on part of the county, not the WHOLE county. Louisville did decline from the 70s to 90s. Not in the last 20 years, not in the least.
It's doing very very well. The metro estimate growth is 5% and that is at or above average for a top 50 metro. Where Louisville is booming is in hotels, tourism, and construction growth.
I know you like to denigrate Louisville, but quit trying to make it look like a declining rust belt town, which it's not. And every year, Louisville's metro growth estimate has gone up. Just 2 years ago the estimate was at 2 or 3%. If Louisville's massive immigrant influx actually turns in their census papers, Louisville may get credit for what's going on.
Seriously dude, come up here and ask anyone if Louisville is declining or losing population. They will tell you that in Cleveland or Detroit, but not in Louisville!
Oh....for the record, if we can count Caroline Hurricanes as a pro team, Louisville can count our tier 1 pro women's soccer team as well. They start play next year. And the tier 1B/Tier 2 USL soccer club is probably the top franchise in America with a new stadium that bests several in the MLS.
Charlotte isn't Raleigh and you ignore the fact that Raleigh competed against Charlotte for all of those teams and lost. The most recent loss being MLS, which chose Charlotte just a few months back.
Do you have a source that supports your assertion? I haven't seen any evidence that Raleigh was competing for an NBA expansion team in the 80's when Charlotte got the Hornets. And why would they? The place is a hotbed of ACC basketball so why would they even want an NBA team?
Not sure about the NFL either, but David Tepper, owner of the Panthers, really threw his weight behind getting an MLS team for Charlotte and Raleigh simply couldn't match that. It had nothing to do with a so-called lack of identity.
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For all the Raleigh boosterism, there's no buzz about the city at all. I don't know how a city can grow to 2 million and be so devoid of a local identity.
There's definitely buzz about the city, just not with you or among your circles. And the Triangle absolutely has an identity, which has been pointed out to you; just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.
You simply have an axe to grind but your opinion of the place has zero bearing on its current or future growth.
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The NFL and NBA are down the road in Charlotte.... the NHL is already in Raleigh..... the only other major league out there is MLB.... and last time I checked... they havent expanded since 1998. So you are saying that if Raleigh had more of an identity... then the NBA, NFL, and MLB would be itching to expand there?
