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Old 06-09-2020, 09:38 AM
Status: "Worship the Earth, Worship Love, not Imaginary Gods" (set 13 days ago)
 
Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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Originally Posted by Gaylord_Focker View Post
Dallas metro is 50% white though. Not really sure where you're going with this honestly.
Two things:

1) There is a difference between this:

Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356

Dallas/Fort Worth Growth:
Hispanic: 280,344
Black: 165,365
Asian: 144,870
White: 107,947

and this:

Austin/Round Rock MSA:
White - 51.6% - 1,119,594
Hispanic - 32.7% - 707,694
Black - 6.9% - 149,293
Asian - 5.9% - 127,855

Austin Growth:
White: 108,394
Hispanic: 106,853
Asian: 35,526
Black: 18,455

I cant help you if you cant see it.

2) Ive said the below twice on this thread:

"The goal is not to point a finger at any of these cities, but rather why? What could Austin do to attract more African Americans or what is the city missing that puts it off the radar for that demographic? Whats the difference between a city like Austin vs. Phoenix or Orlando? None of them are what Id call black culture magnets, but the growth numbers are very different."

So, what is the difference? Why wouldnt African Americans find Austin, Denver, Portland, or Salt Lake City as appealing as even Phoenix or Orlando? You and I are not black so we cant answer, but others on here are. The idea is to get their take.
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
Two things:

1) There is a difference between this:

Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356

Dallas/Fort Worth Growth:
Hispanic: 280,344
Black: 165,365
Asian: 144,870
White: 107,947

and this:

Austin/Round Rock MSA:
White - 51.6% - 1,119,594
Hispanic - 32.7% - 707,694
Black - 6.9% - 149,293
Asian - 5.9% - 127,855

Austin Growth:
White: 108,394
Hispanic: 106,853
Asian: 35,526
Black: 18,455

I cant help you if you cant see it.

2) Ive said the below twice on this thread:

"The goal is not to point a finger at any of these cities, but rather why? What could Austin do to attract more African Americans or what is the city missing that puts it off the radar for that demographic? Whats the difference between a city like Austin vs. Phoenix or Orlando? None of them are what Id call black culture magnets, but the growth numbers are very different."

So, what is the difference? Why wouldnt African Americans find Austin, Denver, Portland, or Salt Lake City as appealing as even Phoenix or Orlando? You and I are not black so we cant answer, but others on here are. The idea is to get their take.
I mean the obvious answer is that Black Americans simply don't work in Tech very much so there's not much of a reason for Blacks to move to these types of cities. On top of that, a lot of them are expensive compared to Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Nashville, and Charlotte. These five cities offer more opportunity as a whole for Black people than the typical Techie cities.
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
Two things:

1) There is a difference between this:

Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356

Dallas/Fort Worth Growth:
Hispanic: 280,344
Black: 165,365
Asian: 144,870
White: 107,947

and this:

Austin/Round Rock MSA:
White - 51.6% - 1,119,594
Hispanic - 32.7% - 707,694
Black - 6.9% - 149,293
Asian - 5.9% - 127,855

Austin Growth:
White: 108,394
Hispanic: 106,853
Asian: 35,526
Black: 18,455

I cant help you if you cant see it.

2) Ive said the below twice on this thread:

"The goal is not to point a finger at any of these cities, but rather why? What could Austin do to attract more African Americans or what is the city missing that puts it off the radar for that demographic? Whats the difference between a city like Austin vs. Phoenix or Orlando? None of them are what Id call black culture magnets, but the growth numbers are very different."

So, what is the difference? Why wouldnt African Americans find Austin, Denver, Portland, or Salt Lake City as appealing as even Phoenix or Orlando? You and I are not black so we cant answer, but others on here are. The idea is to get their take.
If this is the discussion, can you please change OP to replace "minorities" with "African Americans"?
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:48 AM
Status: "Worship the Earth, Worship Love, not Imaginary Gods" (set 13 days ago)
 
Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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If this is the discussion, can you please change OP to replace "minorities" with "African Americans"?
Since that is the direction the conversation is moving, yes I will ask the mods to do that.
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: OC
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
Two things:

1) There is a difference between this:

Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington MSA:
White - 45.6% - 3,441,796
Hispanic - 29.0% - 2,189,777
Black - 15.6% - 1,177,026
Asian - 7.0% - 531,356

Dallas/Fort Worth Growth:
Hispanic: 280,344
Black: 165,365
Asian: 144,870
White: 107,947

and this:

Austin/Round Rock MSA:
White - 51.6% - 1,119,594
Hispanic - 32.7% - 707,694
Black - 6.9% - 149,293
Asian - 5.9% - 127,855

Austin Growth:
White: 108,394
Hispanic: 106,853
Asian: 35,526
Black: 18,455

I cant help you if you cant see it.

2) Ive said the below twice on this thread:

"The goal is not to point a finger at any of these cities, but rather why? What could Austin do to attract more African Americans or what is the city missing that puts it off the radar for that demographic? Whats the difference between a city like Austin vs. Phoenix or Orlando? None of them are what Id call black culture magnets, but the growth numbers are very different."

So, what is the difference? Why wouldnt African Americans find Austin, Denver, Portland, or Salt Lake City as appealing as even Phoenix or Orlando? You and I are not black so we cant answer, but others on here are. The idea is to get their take.
Your tone is an indictment of cities where blacks aren't migrating to. Yes, they prefer Atlanta and Dallas to SLC, is this a surprise?
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: OC
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Originally Posted by whereiend View Post
The thread is actually "where black people are and are not moving to", but for whatever reason a number of posters on here like to say "diverse" and "WHITE CITY" instead of "has a lot of black people" and "doesn't have an especially large number of black people".

I mean hispanics arguably have white skin. And asians work in freaking tech. Clearly they don't count as minorities.
Yes, lump them in with the whites.
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Old 06-09-2020, 09:59 AM
Status: "Worship the Earth, Worship Love, not Imaginary Gods" (set 13 days ago)
 
Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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Your tone is an indictment of cities where blacks aren't migrating to. Yes, they prefer Atlanta and Dallas to SLC, is this a surprise?
The question is why though. Ant mentioned that black people dont really work in tech so they dont favor tech heavy cities. Im sure thats part of it, but there would have to be more. SLC has a big religious element to it being its in a region known for Mormonism, but what about Denver, Austin, and Portland? Theyre all very liberal cities that espouse acceptance, had excellent economies before COVID, and have a long list of amenities.
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:11 AM
Status: "Worship the Earth, Worship Love, not Imaginary Gods" (set 13 days ago)
 
Location: Houston, TX/Detroit, MI
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Yes, lump them in with the whites.
The title of the thread has been changed to reflect African Americans as opposed to minorities. Whereiend requested it and I agreed.

The other part of the title was "Liberal Majority White". Austin does still fit that criteria by metro area which is where these numbers come from.
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: OC
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
The title of the thread has been changed to reflect African Americans as opposed to minorities. Whereiend requested it and I agreed.

The other part of the title was "Liberal Majority White". Austin does still fit that criteria by metro area which is where these numbers come from.
ok, let's wait for our AA posters to answer, but I'm curious about your hypothesis? Please tell us why Austin, Denver and Portland are unappealing to blacks?
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Old 06-09-2020, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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ok, let's wait for our AA posters to answer, but I'm curious about your hypothesis? Please tell us why Austin, Denver and Portland are unappealing to blacks?
I'm not AA, but in Denver's case it may be cost of living. Aurora is actually the most diverse city in the Denver metro area - around 16% AA, and a full 20% of the city's residents were born outside the US. Aurora also has a long-standing, racially-tinged reputation for being a rundown, crime-ridden ghetto. It's laughable considering the city is actually a little safer than Denver.
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