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AFA Minneapolis is concerned, anyone who remembers the "Mary Tyler Moore" sitcom will have Minneapolis imprinted on their brain, which means just about everyone sentient between 1970 and 1977. And some of that city's corporate citizens, perhaps Target above all but maybe also 3M ("Minnesota" being the first M in the company's old name), tend to polish the city's image. Enough to make winterphobic Americans put up with half a year's worth of it? I guess not, but 2.8 million or so Twin Cities residents manage to.
I'm not mentally up to doing the tiering right now, but I promise I will put some up based on my perception of what kind of national buzz the cities get later. But I too think it's worth noting that many of the cities that are seen as most desirable by many are also seen as among the least desirable by many. These five stand out in my book:
New York
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Washington
Miami
Edited to add: When it comes to considering cities and their perception, maybe two old maxims should be kept in mind.
One is the old inside-public-relations saying, attributed to no particular person, that "there's no such thing as bad PR," most closely vocalized by Henry Ford: "I don't care what you say about me, as long as you spell my name right."
The other is Oscar Wilde's related but similar observation: "There's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about." The cities here that many say are seriously underrated I'd say are so because they don't get talked about, Sacramento being perhaps exhibit A in this category.
My View
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Tier 1 - Very Desirable
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Dallas
Atlanta
Tampa
Charlotte
Orlando
haha
i spent 4 hours out in the woods cutting wood in -3F with the wind howling.
the chainsaws were spitting frozen wood chips like they were butter.
Dressed warmly, couple extra layers under a Bill B Pats hoodie/no biggie.
But my wood stove is hungry, and my turkey & sweet potato pies were
warm in the oven, awaiting my humble return.
Tier 1: Very desirable
Seattle: Great jobs, great outdoor environment, pretty, clean
Chicago: Relatively inexpensive city with plenty of opportunities.
Charlotte: I love NC and its amenities. The new South End development has rail service into downtown. Walkable, great weather
Washington DC: Its like Boston with better Public Transportation and cool development projects.
Tier 2: Desirable
Boston: I dropped it from tier 1 because its too expensive. I think its a pristine, well rounded, intellectual city, but too expensive and restrictive.
San Francisco: Its getting dirty and expensive, but nonetheless, SF is hard to beat.
San Diego: Its year round summer
Philadelphia: Same reason I put Chicago in tier 1, but Philadelphia has a bit more work to do.
Tier 3: Moderately desirable
New York: Its fun, but its incredibly dirty, segregated and limited opportunities.
LA: This city might be in my tier 2 in a few years, but too car centric right now and smoggy.
Atlanta: Im not sure why I put it here.
Denver: Hisptery, Mountains.
Portland
Minneapolis
Tier 4: Not desirable
Phoenix, San Antonio, Dallas, Tampa, Sacramento, Baltimore, Austin, Miami
Tier 5: Very undesirable
St. Louis, Detroit, Orlando, Houston
Last edited by masssachoicetts; 08-16-2020 at 08:17 PM..
I love where you put Austin.
25 years ago, it was decent, (even if the wages generally sucked).
Now it's "meh," and dropping.
Not doing well recently, now at risk of becoming a jamif
(just another millennial idiot fest).
LOL! An innocent black man (Elijah McClain) was killed in the Denver area just after George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis yet you think Minneapolis should be knocked down a peg and have Denver ranked as very desirable.
If we were to use your logic every city would be considered not desirable because cops have killed unarmed people in every major city / metro area.
How some of you people make it through the day is beyond me.
Elijah McClain was brutaly murdered on August 30th, 2019, well before George Floyd was murdered.
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