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Wow this is awesome. I laughed at the Riverside thing. I can’t believe that region has 4 million people. Realistically, it owes its existence to its proximity to LA and should be a part of its metro area. That would make NY and LA peers with each having close to 18 million people. The fact that Riverside goes all the way out to Nevada is head-scratching. Anyway, I too often dismiss it as not being a real city/metro area.
Riverside and San Bernardino Counties are huge. Especially San Bernardino, which is twice the size of Massachusetts. Where the people in those counties live is really just the tiny corner that borders metro LA.
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This is a great break down, however there is a big asterisk on the 50 mile radius using "Big radius tool" which was the metric chosen to calculate here.
As an example with Washington at 50 miles (and Baltimore for that matter), Fairfax County, VA for some reason is not populated in this tool leaving 1.1 million people uncounted, as well as the independent cities there. Fairfax county is 23 miles from Washington, the largest jurisdiction in the Washington-Baltimore region, and one of the largest jurisdictions in the mid-Atlantic, and this tool doesn't count it, not even at 25 mile radius.
Even looking at the map on the tool there's a great big blank spot in the middle surrounding by all the red. Pretty weird that the tool does this, and a big flaw. Are there any other examples of this magnitude that anyone knows about using radius Big radius tool?
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50 mile Radius population of Washington including it's primary suburban county as well as Fairfax City, and Falls Church that are inside of Fairfax County using these calculations is over 8.1 million. As is Baltimore which is about 42 miles from Fairfax County, so it's 50 mile radius should show 8 million.
This is a great break down, however there is a big asterisk on the 50 mile radius using "Big radius tool" which was the metric chosen to calculate here.
As an example with Washington at 50 miles (and Baltimore for that matter), Fairfax County, VA for some reason is not populated in this tool leaving 1.1 million people uncounted, as well as the independent cities there. Fairfax county is 23 miles from Washington, the largest jurisdiction in the Washington-Baltimore region, and one of the largest jurisdictions in the mid-Atlantic, and this tool doesn't count it.
Even looking at the map on the tool there's a great big blank spot in the middle surrounding by all the red. Pretty weird that the tool does this, and a big flaw. Are there any other examples of this magnitude that anyone knows about using radius Big radius tool?
50 mile Radius population of Washington including it's primary suburban county as well as Fairfax City, and Falls Church that are inside of Fairfax County using these calculations is over 8.1 million. As is Baltimore which is about 42 miles from Fairfax County, so it's 50 mile radius should show 8 million.
Yeah radius is difficult. I chose the big stats tool because it had a data source and seemed to use the overall most consistent methodology. If you use the “true radius” tool(the second link) at 50 miles it shows Washington at 7.8 million people in a 50 mile radius, but again I cant find their methodology or data source. I’ll make another list showing the cities using that tool for the metric.
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Yeah radius is difficult. I chose the big stats tool because it had a data source and seemed to use the overall most consistent methodology. If you use the “true radius” tool(the second link) at 50 miles it shows Washington at 7.8 million people in a 50 mile radius, but again I cant find their methodology or data source. I’ll make another list showing the cities using that tool for the metric.
Oh yea it's definitely not your fault there really isn't a comprehensive radius tool that I have seen reflect super accuracy yet. Maybe that is something we will see after the 2020 Census. But extremely odd that the largest county over 1.1 million people is just left blank.
I'd say 8 million or so, sounds pretty accurate for 50 miles from either Baltimore or DC. It looks and feels that way to most. So outside of that glaring omission of Fairfax County, the tool somewhat works.
Great work.
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In my opinion, urban areas really do show themselves to be the best measurement. They may not be the best at measuring total catchment, but when combined with the number of residents within 50 miles of a city those two tell us all we really need to know.
In that spirit, I broke down density in urban area below. The urban area is listed along with its population per square mile:
Los Angeles: 7,259
San Francisco: 6,817
San Jose: 6,311
New York City: 5,444
Las Vegas: 5,151
Miami: 4,741
Salt Lake City: 4,385
San Diego: 4,351
Denver: 4,069
Sacramento: 3,996
Portland, OR: 3,961
Washington DC: 3,821
New Orleans: 3,819
Phoenix: 3,615
Chicago: 3,538
Seattle: 3,478
Houston: 3,434
San Antonio: 3,428
Dallas/Fort Worth: 3,308
Austin: 3,187
Baltimore: 3,178
Columbus: 3,021
Orlando: 2,983
Norfolk: 2,878
Tampa: 2,852
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 2,810
Detroit: 2,808
Philadelphia: 2,794
Milwaukee: 2,544
Buffalo: 2,450
Boston: 2,387
Kansas City: 2,379
St. Louis: 2,330
Indianapolis: 2,316
Cleveland: 2,280
Oklahoma City: 2,276
Jacksonville: 2,231
Grand Rapids: 2,230
Providence: 2,203
Memphis: 2,172
Cincinnati: 2,151
Louisville: 2,129
Raleigh: 2,046
Charlotte: 2,020
Atlanta: 1,926
Nashville: 1,919
Pittsburgh: 1,895
Hartford: 1,796
Birmingham: 1,452
In my opinion, urban areas really do show themselves to be the best measurement. They may not be the best at measuring total catchment, but when combined with the number of residents within 50 miles of a city those two tell us all we really need to know.
In that spirit, I broke down density in urban area below. The urban area is listed along with its population per square mile:
Interesting how Boston is 6th by “population within 50mi” but 31st by “urban area density”. Do the other cities just have really tiny urban areas?
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