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An example of how they are exclusive is the Chargers.
When they left San Diego, conventional wisdom was that "no one" would go to their games as there would be no viable fan base.
Looks like they're solidly in the top 1/3rd of NFL attendance, and I don't know what else this could be attributed to beyond the range of Los Angeles to host multiple major sports events on any day of the week.
I don't think this line of reasoning can really be applied across the board. For starters, they initially struggled to even fill the Galaxy stadium in Carson, so clearly the concern wasn't entirely misplaced. But there's also a huge difference between an NFL team and every other pro league team out there. It's one thing to fill a stadium for 8-9 home dates a year, it's another to do it for 41-81 dates.
The NFL's setup is perfect for 'event attendance' and road team attendance with so few games and mostly on weekends. Then add to this the fact that L.A. is a huge metro area which didn't have an NFL team for a long time and thus has tons of fans of other teams. You can probably easily fill SoFi just with visiting fans for all the teams from the major Eastern metropolises as well as the Western teams.
That's a different story in baseball or hockey. The Rays' attendance wasn't saved by playing the Yankees and Red Sox a bunch of times. It helped, but it wasn't enough. A baseball team just doesn't get enough people reliably who go there just to see a ball game, not enough to help over 81 games.
Chargers fans are often outnumbered by visiting team fans. They sell tickets but the lack of home fans appears to be correct.
This isnt being disputed, Charger fans were often outnumbered by away fans in San Diego.
Point is that home fans, or any fans of the team period aren't really needed for a franchise to be successful if the yardstick is ticket sales, concessions, media etc.
It's that kind of naivete that helps these new sports capitals pass up the legacy fanbase cities.
This isnt being disputed, Charger fans were often outnumbered by away fans in San Diego.
Point is that home fans, or any fans of the team period aren't really needed for a franchise to be successful if the yardstick is ticket sales, concessions, media etc.
It's that kind of naivete that helps these new sports capitals pass up the legacy fanbase cities.
Wouldn’t your venue being a destination be an argument *for* being a sports capital?
The idea that Fenway being a big destination for Baseball Fans isn’t an argument against Boston being a big sports town. It’s an argument for it, even if it dilutes the number of home fans at any given game compared to like Cleveland
This isnt being disputed, Charger fans were often outnumbered by away fans in San Diego.
Point is that home fans, or any fans of the team period aren't really needed for a franchise to be successful if the yardstick is ticket sales, concessions, media etc.
It's that kind of naivete that helps these new sports capitals pass up the legacy fanbase cities.
Yes away fans buy what you mentioned. But, they don't buy apparel, so there's a reason why home fans are more valuable than away fans.
Wouldn’t your venue being a destination be an argument *for* being a sports capital?
The idea that Fenway being a big destination for Baseball Fans isn’t an argument against Boston being a big sports town. It’s an argument for it, even if it dilutes the number of home fans at any given game compared to like Cleveland
Yes, venues would drive a sports economy. Don't believe I"ve stated otherwise.
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Yes away fans buy what you mentioned. But, they don't buy apparel, so there's a reason why home fans are more valuable than away fans.
I don't think apparel sales are moving the needle much in the context of the article.
I'm surprised Dallas scored so low in this poll since they have just about every sports team that you can think of.
That’s your Texas ego thinkin . Dallas isn’t the only with all majors. And the Cowboys are the only passionate fan base in Dallas. It’s certainly no Philly, Boston or possibly even Seattle when it comes to passionate fans.
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