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Old 04-23-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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Most people won't agree with me but my vote is for San Diego and Norfolk, Va. These two cities have the highest number of retired military, and they both have a high number of active military.
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:25 PM
 
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so what is your deffinition of tough. military, economically, government, polititial, educational, crime, saftey, weather disisaster prone, citizens, etc. etc.

im confused on what you mean by "Toughness"
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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Most people won't agree with me but my vote is for San Diego and Norfolk, Va. These two cities have the highest number of retired military, and they both have a high number of active military.

Philly will wreck those military pretty boys
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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major cities tough in terms of crime-

west-

los angeles
oakland
las vegas

south-

dallas
houston
memphis
n.o.
miami

midwest-

cincinnati
detroit
cleveland
saint louis
kansas city
chicago

east-

washington
baltimore
philly
new york

cities tough in personality-

chicago
detroit
cleveland
cincinnati
saint louis
pittsburgh
buffalo
washington
baltimore
philly
new york
boston
miami
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:08 PM
 
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major cities tough in terms of crime-

west-

los angeles
oakland
las vegas

south-

dallas
houston
memphis
n.o.
miami

midwest-

cincinnati
detroit
cleveland
saint louis
kansas city
chicago

east-

washington
baltimore
philly
new york

cities tough in personality-

chicago
detroit
cleveland
cincinnati
saint louis
pittsburgh
buffalo
washington
baltimore
philly
new york
boston
miami
Atlanta is missing from "south." It has the highest out of all the ones you listed in that section actually.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:12 PM
 
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major cities tough in terms of crime-

west-

los angeles
oakland
las vegas

south-

dallas
houston
memphis
n.o.
miami

midwest-

cincinnati
detroit
cleveland
saint louis
kansas city
chicago

east-

washington
baltimore
philly
new york

cities tough in personality-

chicago
detroit
cleveland
cincinnati
saint louis
pittsburgh
buffalo
washington
baltimore
philly
new york
boston
miami
Toughness to be proud of!
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:06 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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San Diego "tough"?!?!? In what way exactly?

People here are the biggest wimps when it comes to crime or anything bad happening. The slightest incident like a stabbing and people here act like the sky is falling and we are one of the most dangerous cities in America despite the fact we are always one of the safest big cities in America. It's like people expect SD to be immune to crime and don't realize how much more dangerous other cities and regions are. So many people are afraid to go to TJ or anywhere in Baja CA b/c of some crime, even though I've never had anything happen to me and the tourist areas are generally very safe.

And if it rains for a day or more people start filling up the Ark and act like it's the end of the world. If it's cloudy for more than 2 days, people start complaining about it despite how sunny it is usually. Have you ever seen a San Diegan try to drive in the rain? probably the slowest and most unskilled wet weather drivers around but great dry weather drivers. We are weather wimps and can't handle temps below 40, above 85, more than 1" of rain, or going more than 2 days w/o the sun.

As much as I love San Diego we are not "tough". Life is fairly easy here and people get used to it.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
 
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Detroit is bad. So is St. Louis, Cleveland, Memphis, and Oakland.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:55 PM
 
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Toughest cities are Smithtown, NY, Cary, NC, Naperville, IL, Greenwich, CT, Plano, TX, Irvine, CA, Weston, FL and Gilbert, AZ.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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Celebration, FL
Oakville, ON
and the East End of London
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