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I'm just proving how you don't have as much personal freedom as you expect. Some areas may be ok with public PDA, but until the state legalizes gay marriage, in my book that means not that free.
So that means NY is not that free. I can live with that. Should we be conscientious citizens and move to Iowa?
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Two nifty tricks:
If you look at the little numbers that you can click on next to whatever info is pertinent to you, it'll usually tell you where that info is from. Sometimes they'll even be a nifty link for you to click on and get to the primary source--which is often not something that just anyone can edit. It's pretty amazing, I know.
The other nifty trick is that percentages and absolute numbers can be misleading. While the NYC metro area has a larger total number of people identifying as LGBT than the Metroplex, the Metroplex has a larger percentage--which is what Cliff mentioned in the first place.
Awesome!
Ok, I believe everything you're saying because of Wikipedia; the most reliable source, lol
Until your state passes gay marriage (which you'll probably be like 47th to do), then I'll believe it.
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So that means NY is not that free. I can live with that. Should we be conscientious citizens and move to Iowa?
Makes it more free than a lot of the south. We're about to pass it
" In New York, Gov. David Paterson introduced legislation in April to make same-sex marriage legal.
"The time has come to act. The time has come for leadership. The time has come to bring marriage equality to the state of New York," the Democratic governor said."
If you look at the little numbers that you can click on next to whatever info is pertinent to you, it'll usually tell you where that info is from. Sometimes they'll even be a nifty link for you to click on and get to the primary source--which is often not something that just anyone can edit. It's pretty amazing, I know.
The other nifty trick is that percentages and absolute numbers can be misleading. While the NYC metro area has a larger total number of people identifying as LGBT than the Metroplex, the Metroplex has a larger percentage--which is what Cliff mentioned in the first place.
Awesome!
Don't try arguing with her. She refuses to see anything that doesn't fit into her closed little provincial mind.
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Have you tried following the links they give? Those are reliable sources.
The population in NY metro cannot even be accurately measured with how many gays there are. You can measure that sort of thing in a much smaller city like Dallas.
Anyway, the amount of gays doesn't mean that they feel free to express themselves. Like I've said about 5 times, until Texas passes gay marriage, THEN I will believe it's a more free state than I thought.
Now if you click on it you'll see that under the heading and at the end of the first sentence, there's a little number 22. Now use your cursor to go over it and click it.
WOW! Was that magic!? No, it was the Internet! And clicking that number took you to another "link" where the wiki got its info. Amazingly enough, that reference isn't just "anyone," but actually from The Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy of the UCLA School of Law (perhaps the preeminent public policy law school in the nation). Now you may have noticed this, but just in case, I'd like to point out that you can even click on the link in the reference to get the primary source itself where you can find the table for yourself. Now in case the numbers things is too confusing for you, to get the percentage, what you need to do is take the number of LGBT people in the metro area (NYC and the Metroplex in this case) and then divide by the number of people (LGBT or otherwise) within the metro area. After that, you multiply the result by 100 and tack one of these things: '%'
Now with the combination of the Internet and math at your disposal, you can do ANYTHING!
My state is New York, and we might as well be 47th. How ridiculous is it that we haven't passed the legislation already? I'll believe it when it actually happens--2007 was the year that it almost-certainly-probably-most likely-definitely-maybe happened. And then what happened?
Anyhow, we're veering way off. You talked about social freedoms and that's a good and fine point. Unfortunately, you decided to back that point up with a statement that's both untrue and silly (gay couples can't hold hands in Texas? What, in a state that big with so many big cities? Who are you kidding here?). Just recant that and realize you were way off-base.
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