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Old 04-21-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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To me both states are important agriculturally. Pennsylvania has two major cities, but Illinois has Chicago, which is larger than both Philadelphia and Pittsburgh combined. Pennsylvania was more important historically during our nation's revolution. Both states have their fair share of tourists. Both states have similar populations and demographics. Illinois and Pennsylvania are tied in my book. I just wasn't understanding why everyone was putting Illinois as #5 while completely disregarding Pennsylvania in terms of importance.
...just may have been an oversight. But after considering a number of states for #5 ( OH, VA, NC, GA, and yes, PA) I'm going to stay with the Illini.

PA gets the historical/colonial nod, while IL is the Corn Belt personified.

 
Old 04-21-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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...just may have been an oversight. But after considering a number of states for #5 ( OH, VA, NC, GA, and yes, PA) I'm going to stay with the Illini.

PA gets the historical/colonial nod, while IL is the Corn Belt personified.
No offense taken. I'm just glad to receive an explanation. There's nothing inherently "wrong" about elevating IL higher than PA. It was just me seeing person after person doing this without giving an explanation, and since both IL and PA are so comparable it really didn't make sense to me.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 08:45 PM
 
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Default I think that the results..

..of this debate have exemplified just how much the US has changed in the last generation.

If we had one this poll 25-35 years ago, we would still have CA and NY, at the top, and probably Texas in 3rd, but I don't think FL would have made the top 10. Our top 10 would have been loaded up with IL, PA, OH and MI, for certain, and we wouldn't be even thinking about VA, NC or GA. I think that even MA and NJ might have been included. But now we have ever-growing CO and AZ, along with the afore-mentioned southern states, and many of our preconceptions have been set on their head.Things have certainly changed in one generation.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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Basically, it comes down to the top 3 are very clear cut and obvious (CA, TX and NY) so the real question is, what are numbers 4 and 5?
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:12 PM
 
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Default It' s late, but most posters...

...also included DC in the top 4; the only question that remains is about #5; I voted for SF, and some others did as well, but some also picked Atlanta, Boston, Houston... so I don't think we'll ever get a consensus for the final pick.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Irvine,Oc,Ca
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^PA,IL,or Fl?I Really don't care what order they are.
 
Old 04-21-2009, 11:53 PM
 
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Basically, it comes down to the top 3 are very clear cut and obvious (CA, TX and NY) so the real question is, what are numbers 4 and 5?
4. Fla
5. Il
 
Old 04-22-2009, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Basically, it comes down to the top 3 are very clear cut and obvious (CA, TX and NY) so the real question is, what are numbers 4 and 5?
Number four is Florida, at least as far as population and gross state product are concerned. But, at least according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA News Release (GDP by State)), Florida's growth has stagnated lately. If that trend continues, Pennsylvania and Illinois will easily round out the top five before the next decade is out, California will continue to dominate the top spot and Texas and New York will continue to trade the two and three spots. Here's the most recent (2007) list of states by GSP according to wikipedia: List of U.S. states by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Number four is Florida, at least as far as population and gross state product are concerned. But, at least according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA News Release (GDP by State)), Florida's growth has stagnated lately. If that trend continues, Pennsylvania and Illinois will easily round out the top five before the next decade is out, California will continue to dominate the top spot and Texas and New York will continue to trade the two and three spots. Here's the most recent (2007) list of states by GSP according to wikipedia: List of U.S. states by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
However, if you look at how Texas countinue to grow, it starts to widen the gap between it and NY.
 
Old 04-22-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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However, if you look at how Texas countinue to grow, it starts to widen the gap between it and NY.
Maybe, but New York isn't exactly resting on its laurels.
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