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San Antonio. I dont care how many Mexicans are in San Antonio, there isnt a city in the southeast less southern than Miami. Heck, I wouldnt even consider Miami as American anymore, much less southern.
I just learned from this thread that southern culture means lots of blacks and whites, little or no Hispanic/latin influence, and the whites in the area need to have a "southern" accent. This thread is so educational.
I picked San Antonio but it never impresses me as being particularly "southern"; more "western" in my opinion. And Miami doesn't seem "southern" in any way; more latino like Los Angeles. But San Antonio is also very latino. Neither city is southern like Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte.
Both San Antonio and Miami are equally southern. In the sense that both are "transitional" cities. They contain many elements and characteristics of the South but are also dominated by the Latino cultures from the areas they border.
In San Antonio there isn't much in the way of southerness on the west and north sides of the city, but east of downtown, its ties to the south become much more prevalent.
Neither are as southern as Houston and Atlanta, but still the south.
Both San Antonio and Miami are equally southern. In the sense that both are "transitional" cities. They contain many elements and characteristics of the South but are also dominated by the Latino cultures from the areas they border.
In San Antonio there isn't much in the way of southerness on the west and north sides of the city, but east of downtown, its ties to the south become much more prevalent.
Neither are as southern as Houston and Atlanta, but still the south.
I definitely agree with this. Same applies to Austin, the further West you go in Austin, the more western it feels in character. Austin San Antonio and the Hill Country, are arguably the gateways to the West if there not already in the West themselves. Actually they are, I would say Elgin TX is the Gateway to the West.
Order some grits in Miami and see if they don't look at you funny,that is if they are on the menu. The only thing southern is that they call a part of U.S.1 Dixie Highway and that is where the southern part ends.
Order some grits in Miami and see if they don't look at you funny,that is if they are on the menu. The only thing southern is that they call a part of U.S.1 Dixie Highway and that is where the southern part ends.
Grits are popular in many Midwestern states. What's your point?
Can someone please explain to me how Miami is southern at all besides for some race issues in the past? I think we are talking about right now no?
I have lived in Miami all my life and have traveled around the south my whole life in no way is it southern. I cant think of one thing that makes it southern. Maybe when you get up to Western and Norther Broward and Extreme South Miami-Dade County maybe. But as for the Miami most people been to, think of etc.. it has almost no southern influence at all.
I just learned from this thread that southern culture means lots of blacks and whites, little or no Hispanic/latin influence, and the whites in the area need to have a "southern" accent. This thread is so educational.
Both Miami and San Antonio are in the south, but San Antonio is also is considered American Southwest. San Antonio has a long tradition of cattle ranching...The first "Cowboys" were Spanish and Mexican ranch hands...The Longhorn was brought to the New World by the Spanish back in the early 1700's.
Europeans came to the Southcentral Texas area in the mid 1800's bringing their traditions and customs.
San Antonio has a great mix of Spanish, Mexican, German, Polish, French, Chech, Black, Creole-cajun, and Native Texan influences...
If you asked most San Antonio Hispanics cooks to make you a plate of Blackeyed peas and cornbread you'ld be eating good.
Can someone please explain to me how Miami is southern at all besides for some race issues in the past? I think we are talking about right now no?
I have lived in Miami all my life and have traveled around the south my whole life in no way is it southern. I cant think of one thing that makes it southern. Maybe when you get up to Western and Norther Broward and Extreme South Miami-Dade County maybe. But as for the Miami most people been to, think of etc.. it has almost no southern influence at all.
Well if Miami isn't the South, what else could it possibly be?
A city doesn't have to have all of the stereotypical qualities of the south in order to be considered.
Furthermore, I believe that the land Miami now sits on used to be slave territory. And what about the Heartland? You can't just wipe all of that away simply because of cultural changes.
Is Miami southern like Houston or Atlanta? No. But it's the south nonetheless.
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