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TV markets may be the best tool to gauge the unity of a cohesive region.
The Philadelphia area remains the No. 4 TV market in the United States in Nielsen’s latest ranking.
The area has 2,955,190 TV homes, according to the Nielsen’s 2009-2010 numbers, up from 2,950,200 for 2008-2009.
There was no change in the rankings among the top 12 markets, headed by New York, with about 7.5 million TV homes, and followed by Los Angeles (5.7 million) and Chicago (3.5 million).
Just behind Philadelphia is Dallas-Ft. Worth, with 2.5 million TV homes.
There are an estimated 114.9 million TV households in the United States, according to
U.S. TV Household Estimates Designated
Market Area (DMA) — Ranked by Households
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Households % of US
1 New York, NY 7,433,820
2 Los Angeles, CA 5,654,260
3 Chicago, IL 3,492,850
4 Philadelphia, PA 2,955,190
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX 2,489,970
6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA 2,476,450
7 Boston, MA (Manchester, NH) 2,409,080
8 Atlanta, GA 2,369,780
9 Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) 2,321,610
10 Houston, TX 2,106,210
But many of those Philly people are not connected to Philly the same way their counterparts are related to SF. Hence, SF has the larger CSA population.
The Trenton and Mercer County NJ addition to the NYC CMSA makes a mockery of the census designated criteria. Renders it obsolete imo.
Here is a photo of Morrisville Pa(Bucks County) the Delaware River and then Trenton.
Here is a photo of lower Bucks county, literally 15 miles from the Philadelphia border to Morrisville/Trenton.
TV markets may be the best tool to gauge the unity of a cohesive region.
The Philadelphia area remains the No. 4 TV market in the United States in Nielsen’s latest ranking.
The area has 2,955,190 TV homes, according to the Nielsen’s 2009-2010 numbers, up from 2,950,200 for 2008-2009.
There was no change in the rankings among the top 12 markets, headed by New York, with about 7.5 million TV homes, and followed by Los Angeles (5.7 million) and Chicago (3.5 million).
Just behind Philadelphia is Dallas-Ft. Worth, with 2.5 million TV homes.
There are an estimated 114.9 million TV households in the United States, according to
U.S. TV Household Estimates Designated
Market Area (DMA) — Ranked by Households
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Households % of US
1 New York, NY 7,433,820
2 Los Angeles, CA 5,654,260
3 Chicago, IL 3,492,850
4 Philadelphia, PA 2,955,190
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX 2,489,970
6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA 2,476,450
7 Boston, MA (Manchester, NH) 2,409,080
8 Atlanta, GA 2,369,780
9 Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD) 2,321,610
10 Houston, TX 2,106,210
More people listen to the radio than watch tv.
Largest Radio Markets
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago 4 San Francisco
5 Dallas
6 Houston
7 Atlanta 8 Philadelphia
9 Washington DC
10 Boston
Their intent is not to debate; only to get a rise out of adults with any rhetoric that suits them. They insist they know better than the Census Bureau. Boys will be boys.
That's funny-cause Combined Statistical Areas are used by the Census Bureau as well.
Monclair, You are correct about the CSA population rules and stats but...Rainrock has a point.
The Philly TV market is larger than the Bay Area's.
But its radio market is not.
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If you take the Bay Area's CSA land area and compare that same land area around Philly, I bet Philly has the larger population.
Like I said earlier, if the criteria is loosened to make Philly bigger-then other areas will also become much larger as well.
If Philly gets all those areas rainrock is praying for, then the Bay Area will add about 2 Million people in its surroundings as well and something tells me he wouldnt like that one bit.
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But many of those Philly people are not connected to Philly the same way their counterparts are related to SF. Hence, SF has the larger CSA population.
100% True.
This is the bitter pill that many Phillyforumers refuse to swallow.
Like I said earlier, if the criteria is loosened to make Philly bigger-then other areas will also become much larger as well.
Get a grip Montclair.There is alot of inconsistency in metro designation.I dont want Phillys parameters to be loosened. I just want consistency. I want Philadlephia to span 9000- 10,000 sq.miles like the rest of the metroes do. Atlantas metro encompasses 29 counties. Dallas-Fort Worth + Houstons metroes sprawl 3x the size of Phillys.
Trenton/Mercer County not being part of Philly MSA is an abomination. Trenton not being part of Phillys CMSA is preposterously unthinkable, analogous to Oakland not being part of the Bay Area.
Wow, this thread won't die, somebody put a stake through it. What have MSA's got to do with which city is "better".
Would you move to one because of statistics
But...I would be curious. What is SF's CSA land area?
About 8,400 square miles.
Of that 8,400 square miles, approximately 1,100 square miles are actually developed.
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And can we apply that same land area to Philly and compare the populations???
We could. But as we've stated before, Philadelphia abutts New York and Washington-Baltimore.
And while being so close to those 2 is fun for visiting--it sucks when your trying to make a name for yourself internationally.
On the flip side,
San Francisco is the major city for hundreds of miles in every direction. 16 Million people in Northern California, Northern Nevada and even Southwestern Oregon live within its area of influence.
The same area's population is expected to soar to 25 Million in the next 2 decades.
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. Boys will be boys.
