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Agree. I could see the CSA maybe reaching 6 million.
If Houston isn't at 6 million for the 2010 Census, it will be there the next year. It's moot anyway because I think Houston will pass the 6 million mark in both the CSA and MSA.
If Houston isn't at 6 million for the 2010 Census, it will be there the next year. It's moot anyway because I think Houston will pass the 6 million mark in both the CSA and MSA.
The Census numbers wont be taken till about April so that's still another 4 additional months of population gain. I agree they'll pass the 6 million mark soon and I would even say the 7 million mark in the next ten years.
The Census numbers wont be taken till about April so that's still another 4 additional months of population gain. I agree they'll pass the 6 million mark soon and I would even say the 7 million mark in the next ten years.
Metro Houston is projected to be at 7.6 million in 2025 I believe. I would extimate it will pass the 7 million mark in about 2019 or so.
The Bay Area is one metro period. Whether SF and SJ should or should not be in the same MSA, who knows. But outside of city data, where anyone and everyone with a personal grudge against a metro thinks otherwise, the rest of the world outside of these forums would agree with me.....
Guy here at work said he was on a business trip to San Francisco last week. I asked what part of San Francisco and he said San Jose...
I thought this was an interesting article that came out today. It basically says what I have been trying to espouse on other threads in this forum. The Bay Area is not stagnant in growth to say the least and has been growing at a very healthy clip the past few years.
The article says that out-migration from the Bay Area has slowed and in fact, there are more people moving to the BA from out of state than are moving out.
I think the BA will reach 8 million sooner than I thought.
Oh please. The Bay Area' overlap is more dense than DFWs. You just have more of it.
What are you talking about?
They border each other.
It cracks me up. I think perhaps a lot of people in other areas (perhaps even Inside the Beltway - LOL!) imagine there to be fields or even low density suburbs between the city limits of SF, SJ and Oakland, along the Bay. When in fact, the density of such infill "burbs" typically rivals something like the Bronx or Queens!
But its also the factor that denies SF and SJ combining. Sorta.
The rule is that if 2 MSAs dont meet the commuting requirement which SF and SJ don't quite do, is, they can still combine if:
1. There is 3+miles of overlapping development.
Now at the border of SF and SJ, which as you stated is totally nonstop as far as population density, there is an office park at Sand Hill Road on the border of Menlo Park(SF) and Palo Alto(SJ) that causes the overlap right at the border to be 2.7 sq miles.
Look at the bottom of this pic at that office park which appears to be all by itself in the dried grass. There is a definite break in development at the worst possible spot. LOL
or...
2. The 2 MSAs demonstrate some sort of regional unity.
We have a common media market, we root for the same teams, we all surround the same body of water and so on.
I think all it would take is our congressional delegation sending a letter to the Census Bureau.
That might sound silly but the Census Bureau is sued all the time by cities disputing their findings. As weird as that might sound, this is how federal money is allocated and this is how US House seats are awarded to states so its very important.
We are getting a raw deal from the Feds, due to this. Personally I think the MSA vs CSA op defs are rigged to favor places east of the Rockies that are built on flatlands, are not hemmed in by topography and water, and are more globular than linear in nature. But what do I know. LOL.
BTW - other places getting a raw deal, IMHO - Greater LA (inclusive of OC, the IE and the Gold Coast), the Olympia-Tacoma-Seattle-etc complex, and even to extent the Ft. Collins - Boulder - Denver complex (or it soon will be).
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