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Old 06-01-2017, 07:47 AM
 
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Montclair is much less than 50% black.
While it is 23.8%(26.3 including in combo) Black(2015 info), the southern/SE portion of Montclair would fit, as it is predominantly Black and is lower/straight middle class between census tracts 017100 and 017200. Both combine to have around 5000 people and this is an area near Orange, West Orange and East Orange. Census tract 017000 is next to both and is 40% Black out of 3087 people and has a median household income of $87,361($67,083 for Black households). This is according to 2014 information. For NJ, the MHHI for that year was $72,062.

Census tract 017100 is 73.69% Black out of 2406 people with a MHHI of $51,765($51,544 for Black households). Census tract 017200 is 57.51% Black out of 2502 people with a MHHI of $71,898($73,438 for Black households). There is also census block group 016800-1 with a MHHI of $65,294 and is about 57.6% Black(2010 info) out of 873 people(2014 info) that touches Downtown Montclair and census tract 017100. So, this continuous area has over 5000 people, is predominantly Black and has a business district partially in this area. Street view of the portion of Downtown in the census block group: https://goo.gl/maps/sGTgeBkjMVz


There are also a few census block groups in West Orange that are pluralistically more(probably predominantly now) Black and middle class next to/near this area of Montclair as well.

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Old 06-01-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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While it is 23.8%(26.3 including in combo) Black(2015 info), the southern/SE portion of Montclair would fit, as it is predominantly Black and is lower/straight middle class between census tracts 017100 and 017200. Both combine to have around 5000 people and this is an area near Orange, West Orange and East Orange. Census tract 017000 is next to both and is 40% Black out of 3087 people and has a median household income of $87,361($67,083 for Black households). This is according to 2014 information. For NJ, the MHHI for that year was $72,062.

Census tract 017100 is 73.69% Black out of 2406 people with a MHHI of $51,765($51,544 for Black households). Census tract 017200 is 57.51% Black out of 2502 people with a MHHI of $71,898($73,438 for Black households). There is also census block group 016800-1 with a MHHI of $65,294 and is about 57.6% Black(2010 info) out of 873 people(2014 info) that touches Downtown Montclair and census tract 017100. So, this continuous area has over 5000 people, is predominantly Black and has a business district partially in this area. Street view of the portion of Downtown in the census block group: https://goo.gl/maps/sGTgeBkjMVz


There are also a few census block groups in West Orange that are pluralistically more(probably predominantly now) Black and middle class next to/near this area of Montclair as well.

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Its Downtown appears to meet cultural aspects as well: Downtown Montclair | VisitNJ.org

Montclair Center

https://njmonthly.com/articles/jerse...ontclair-2015/

https://www.montclairartmuseum.org/aacc

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Old 06-01-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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This portion of Bloomfield Avenue has more Black owned businesses and the northern border of census tract 017100 is at the south side of the street: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8085...!6m1!1e1?hl=en
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Here is a somewhat relevant article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.mic.c...e-black-family
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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DeSoto in DFW

When most people think of growing affluent communities in North Texas, Frisco, Flower Mound and Southlake come to mind; DeSoto should also come to mind.
The southern Dallas County community has grown from 15,000 residents in the 1980's to more than 50,000 people who now call the city home.
Taj Clayton is a partner in the law firm Fish and Richardson and his wife Tonika is a vice president at an education technology company. With their pick of places to raise their two daughters and son, they chose DeSoto.
"DeSoto, for our perspective, was the best place to live, " Taj Clayton said. "It was just a hidden gem that a lot of people didn't know about. There are beautiful hills, undulating landscapes, incredible parks. I feel fortunate to live on a golf course."
Celebrating 100 Years of Black Aviation
"We are actually three minutes from my kids school," Tonika Clayton said. "We got some of our friends to move here from Plano."
The couple said there was another attraction. Like the Claytons, most of DeSoto's new residents are middle class and affluent blacks.
"It's a really nice bedroom community where you see a lot of successful people who live here and, demographically, there are a lot of African-Americans."
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That's something very familiar to DeSoto Mayor Carl Sherman.
"Since 2000-2010, there's been a large migration of African-Americans to North Texas," Sherman said. "In fact we're the leading [community] second only to Atlanta for the migration from north to south. And many of those have chosen to live in the city of DeSoto because of the caliber of the citizens that we have here."
According to the U.S. Census, 68 percent of people in DeSoto are black or African-American compared with 25 percent in Dallas and 18.9 percent in Fort Worth.
In 2013, the median household income in DeSoto is $60,945. The statewide average is $51,900. The average in Dallas is $42,846. Only nine percent of DeSoto residents live below the poverty line.
Despite the positives, Sherman believes some real estate agents steer potential white residents away from DeSoto.
"They were shown some of our nice, pristine communities, well-manicured yards and the realtor would say, 'Are you sure you want to live here?'" Sherman said. "Whereas, conversely, African-Americans and Hispanic families would be told all the wonderful things about DeSoto. So you can understand if you have that kind of steering that's going on in a marketplace not everyone is not going to be influenced by that."
Feleceia Benton grew up in DeSoto. She attended Texas Christian University but later returned to raise her daughter and started a marketing company.
"I love DeSoto and I'm a DeSotoian at heart," Benton boasted. "It's also incredibly beautiful to see so many educated African-Americans coming back to the contribute to the community as a whole."
According to the U.S. Census, 55.3 percent of businesses in DeSoto are owned by black or African-American people.
Tochi Osuji moved her business, My Choice Spa and Wellness Lounge, to DeSoto a year ago. It's located next door to her husband's medical practice.
"This area, we did the research and there wasn't anything like this in the south area," Osuji said. "When they wanted a quality spa, they [customers] would go to the north. I thought we can bring that here."
There was also a bigger picture, Osuji and others said.
"I wanted a little, young, black girl that wanted to go to a spa to see one in their neighborhood, and know that it's possible," Osuji said.
The Claytons concur. Their children attend the same private school that produced Rhodes Scholar Tina Yancy.
"I think it's amazing for our kids to be able to grow up and see role models and people that are doing well that look like them," Tonika Clayton said.
"To actually see professionals who look like them, so they have sort of role models to model themselves after, you know, doctors, lawyers, entrepreuners, business leaders," Taj Clayton said. "That's really good for them to see bright and early."
Editor's Note: the video misidentified the Rhodes Scholar as Tina Yancy. Her first name is actually Nina. We regret the error.
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:40 AM
 
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DeSoto in DFW

When most people think of growing affluent communities in North Texas, Frisco, Flower Mound and Southlake come to mind; DeSoto should also come to mind.
The southern Dallas County community has grown from 15,000 residents in the 1980's to more than 50,000 people who now call the city home.
Taj Clayton is a partner in the law firm Fish and Richardson and his wife Tonika is a vice president at an education technology company. With their pick of places to raise their two daughters and son, they chose DeSoto.
"DeSoto, for our perspective, was the best place to live, " Taj Clayton said. "It was just a hidden gem that a lot of people didn't know about. There are beautiful hills, undulating landscapes, incredible parks. I feel fortunate to live on a golf course."
Celebrating 100 Years of Black Aviation
"We are actually three minutes from my kids school," Tonika Clayton said. "We got some of our friends to move here from Plano."
The couple said there was another attraction. Like the Claytons, most of DeSoto's new residents are middle class and affluent blacks.
"It's a really nice bedroom community where you see a lot of successful people who live here and, demographically, there are a lot of African-Americans."
McKinney ISD Trailblazer Reflects on Integration
That's something very familiar to DeSoto Mayor Carl Sherman.
"Since 2000-2010, there's been a large migration of African-Americans to North Texas," Sherman said. "In fact we're the leading [community] second only to Atlanta for the migration from north to south. And many of those have chosen to live in the city of DeSoto because of the caliber of the citizens that we have here."
According to the U.S. Census, 68 percent of people in DeSoto are black or African-American compared with 25 percent in Dallas and 18.9 percent in Fort Worth.
In 2013, the median household income in DeSoto is $60,945. The statewide average is $51,900. The average in Dallas is $42,846. Only nine percent of DeSoto residents live below the poverty line.
Despite the positives, Sherman believes some real estate agents steer potential white residents away from DeSoto.
"They were shown some of our nice, pristine communities, well-manicured yards and the realtor would say, 'Are you sure you want to live here?'" Sherman said. "Whereas, conversely, African-Americans and Hispanic families would be told all the wonderful things about DeSoto. So you can understand if you have that kind of steering that's going on in a marketplace not everyone is not going to be influenced by that."
Feleceia Benton grew up in DeSoto. She attended Texas Christian University but later returned to raise her daughter and started a marketing company.
"I love DeSoto and I'm a DeSotoian at heart," Benton boasted. "It's also incredibly beautiful to see so many educated African-Americans coming back to the contribute to the community as a whole."
According to the U.S. Census, 55.3 percent of businesses in DeSoto are owned by black or African-American people.
Tochi Osuji moved her business, My Choice Spa and Wellness Lounge, to DeSoto a year ago. It's located next door to her husband's medical practice.
"This area, we did the research and there wasn't anything like this in the south area," Osuji said. "When they wanted a quality spa, they [customers] would go to the north. I thought we can bring that here."
There was also a bigger picture, Osuji and others said.
"I wanted a little, young, black girl that wanted to go to a spa to see one in their neighborhood, and know that it's possible," Osuji said.
The Claytons concur. Their children attend the same private school that produced Rhodes Scholar Tina Yancy.
"I think it's amazing for our kids to be able to grow up and see role models and people that are doing well that look like them," Tonika Clayton said.
"To actually see professionals who look like them, so they have sort of role models to model themselves after, you know, doctors, lawyers, entrepreuners, business leaders," Taj Clayton said. "That's really good for them to see bright and early."
Editor's Note: the video misidentified the Rhodes Scholar as Tina Yancy. Her first name is actually Nina. We regret the error.
Where in DeSoto, as it is a suburban city?
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Old 06-04-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Chatham, Chicago
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Yes.
I would also have to single out Flossmoor (suburban Chicago, IL), IL. It is a gorgeous community.
it's a nice suburb, but I dont know if it's a hip place to be for young black people. property taxes are absurd, and it doesn't have that great of public transportation access.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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This cultural center is in the Masten Park neighborhood near the Hamlin Park neighborhood: african-cultural-ctr
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: USA o(*_*)o
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Despite their often negative connotation, I find many black neighborhoods to be rich with history and culture, and some have gentrified.

My criteria for a good African-american neighborhood:

-Average or less crime
-Good public service facilities
-A good middle-class population
-Lots of fine culture/entertainment (music scene, literature, cultural attractions, etc.)
-Good transportation access
-Lively shopping/dining
-Good recreational facilities
-At least 50% of the neighborhood is black
-A population of at least 5,000
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Prince George’s neighborhoods make ‘Top 10 List of Richest Black Communities in America’


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4872d583738c
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Prince George’s neighborhoods make ‘Top 10 List of Richest Black Communities in America’


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4872d583738c
The only thing is that this also uses the Atlanta Black Star article, which leaves out quite a few other places. For instance, Uniondale isn't even the most affluent predominantly Black place on Long Island, let alone being on a national top 10 list. On Long Island, Lakeview, Wheatley Heights and I believe now North Valley Stream are more affluent in terms of median household income for predominantly Black places on Long Island. All 3 are in solid/very good school districts too.

Tiny South Floral Park also has a higher median household income than Uniondale.
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