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Here is the way I see it...
I live in a wealthy neighborhood (houses are between 500k to 4m, it used to be between 1m to 8m), and I can tell you that 80 to 90% are college grads. Most are doctors, lawyers, accountants, tech, etc... My next door neighbor is has a masters in HR and works for BOA, makes about 150k, his wife is a CPA that also makes good money. On the other side is the new guy on the street, just moved in a few months ago, in his mid 20's software engineer.
In my street there is only one that doesn't have a college degree, and he is a business owner.
College a scam??? I don't think so, is an investment, like all investment is a gamble.
Almost all of the people that I know that makes 100k+ has a college degree. So how could that be a scam? And if they spend all of their money paying loans, how come they can afford this houses??
Get a job making the most money you can after you graduate high school. I suggest working in the field you hope to be in; in this case, you might consider getting a job at a daycare/preschool or as a nanny for a family. Meanwhile, take your first two years of classes at a community college. I don't know how it is in SC, but where I live, community college is about $100/credit. That's about 1/3 the cost of a state school.
Then, for years three and four you transfer to a four-year college and finish the degree. You will have to pay for two years, but that's better than paying for four.
I wouldn't recommend trying to go through life without a degree; you'll regret it if you do.
Get a job making the most money you can after you graduate high school. I suggest working in the field you hope to be in; in this case, you might consider getting a job at a daycare/preschool or as a nanny for a family. Meanwhile, take your first two years of classes at a community college. I don't know how it is in SC, but where I live, community college is about $100/credit. That's about 1/3 the cost of a state school.
Then, for years three and four you transfer to a four-year college and finish the degree. You will have to pay for two years, but that's better than paying for four.
I wouldn't recommend trying to go through life without a degree; you'll regret it if you do.
Good post, do you mind if I ask you some personal questions. What was your major at Indiana? How much did school cost you; how much did you owe when you finished? Did you get a job in your field after school? Is your salary more than you owe in loans? Thanks
It's just another way 'they' make money off of us. We get to go deep in debt, pay thousands and thousands of dollars so that we MIGHT get the chance to be a corporate slave and make 'them' a lot of money. It's a pile of crap.
The fact of the matter is our culture is too focused on the commoditization of every facet of our lives.
College... knowelge... is therefore only considered to be of value if it translates into monetary gain.
The funny thing about that is that money itself is a lie, perpetrated on the people and traping them into a system that requires ever-increasing levels of consumption to perpetuate itself. It's an unnatural and completely retarded system.
Going to college with that basic assumption virtually assures a failed college experience, becasuse each course taken ends up being just another seemingly endless burning hoop to jump through, suffering in the short term to get past finals and hurry on to the next hoop until the last one has been cleared.
A real experience is supposed to be an experience, not a means to an end, and like most experiences, the person having the experiences will determine how much they get out of it. If you finish college and feel like you only have a piece of paper to show for it, it's because you spent your college journey focused only on the endpoint and failed to pay attention to the journey.
It's just another way 'they' make money off of us. We get to go deep in debt, pay thousands and thousands of dollars so that we MIGHT get the chance to be a corporate slave and make 'them' a lot of money. It's a pile of crap.
I prefer to make 200K being a corporate slave compared to 8 dollars per hour and still a corporate slave...
Also with a degree is much much easier to open your own business, especially a professional business, where the degree is actually needed (clinics, law firms, CPA firms, etc).
A degree is what you make of it, is useless if you don't know how to use it, is has a lot of value if you know how to use it...
Every degree has a value...
Here is the way I see it...
I live in a wealthy neighborhood (houses are between 500k to 4m, it used to be between 1m to 8m), and I can tell you that 80 to 90% are college grads. Most are doctors, lawyers, accountants, tech, etc... My next door neighbor is has a masters in HR and works for BOA, makes about 150k, his wife is a CPA that also makes good money. On the other side is the new guy on the street, just moved in a few months ago, in his mid 20's software engineer.
In my street there is only one that doesn't have a college degree, and he is a business owner.
College a scam??? I don't think so, is an investment, like all investment is a gamble.
Almost all of the people that I know that makes 100k+ has a college degree. So how could that be a scam? And if they spend all of their money paying loans, how come they can afford this houses??
You cite jobs that require a college or several college degrees in order to make good money. Of course college is worth it if you want to be in the medical profession or work in the computer industry. No one is going to argue with that. They'd be stupid if they did try to form an argument.
But look on the other side. Let's say you get a degree in one of the following: English, history, communications, philosophy, psychology, political science, sociology, or anthropology. What can you do with those degrees? What if you get one of those degrees and say you don't want to go to graduate school. Then what? The degree you have is a bachelors degree, but it has little value unlike a degree in nursing which can get you a job as a......................nurse.
If you're not sure what you want to do and end up getting a degree because you believe any degree is better than nothing, then you're not going to be successful as the other person who ended up getting a degree in nursing who is now working in a hospital while you're at home applying to whatever kind of jobs you can.
Then you can say that the college degree you got was a scam.........
If you want to teach, you will have to get a college degree. That's the incontrovertible fact. If you want to do something else, perhaps you don't need a degree.
You cite jobs that require a college or several college degrees in order to make good money. Of course college is worth it if you want to be in the medical profession or work in the computer industry. No one is going to argue with that. They'd be stupid if they did try to form an argument.
But look on the other side. Let's say you get a degree in one of the following: English, history, communications, philosophy, psychology, political science, sociology, or anthropology. What can you do with those degrees? What if you get one of those degrees and say you don't want to go to graduate school. Then what? The degree you have is a bachelors degree, but it has little value unlike a degree in nursing which can get you a job as a......................nurse.
If you're not sure what you want to do and end up getting a degree because you believe any degree is better than nothing, then you're not going to be successful as the other person who ended up getting a degree in nursing who is now working in a hospital while you're at home applying to whatever kind of jobs you can.
Then you can say that the college degree you got was a scam.........
It isn't a scam unless the college promised you that your philosophy degree would earn you a high paid job.
Some people go to college simply to learn something rewarding and either don't care that it isn't "valuable" or didn't pay attention to the job prospects for their chosen major.
There is nothing we can do about those people. If you come from a wealthy family and it doesn't matter what degree you get - then go to college for the experience. But if it is important to earn a living then choose a promising degree program.
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